hmm another 2c worth

yeah they are grabbing from websites, their grabbers break, they just keep fixing them, awhile back one site decided they didn't want oztivo grabbing from them so put a stop to it (or something happened anyway), i think they had to source an alternative site, basically they have agreed to not discuss where the guide data comes from and leave it at that. Personally i'm surprised that they manage to get such good guide data from online sources, obviously they're better at coding than me

a while back someone wanted to start a business off the back of oztivo, the community was pretty anti as u can imagine. There is another tivo enthusiast currently trying to create his own PVR service (icetv.com.au?), don't think anyone even knows how he's going about the guide data but he is offering it as a pay service same as tivo so dunno how he is skirting the law...