Once the forced daily calls had completed on both I rebooted after re-setting the times an hour ahead. Seemingly had no effect but I did notice about 6 hours later the guide was ok so then had to put the times right using settime. Perhaps it was still compiling the data? Though usually when it is doing this it stops me making another call. Both had made their initial daily calls after 3am, perhaps they just got confused!

One thing I did note was that ntpdate -b -v 210.48.107.133 on the Philips ran ok, but on the Thompson it hangs after giving the time. I've just reloaded ntpdate.zip from http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread....me-an-hour-out and now seems to be ok. Could this have been part of the problem with wrong time after the UK time change a couple of weeks ago?

Hopefully I am sorted - until the next time change!