Can't make first call SerialPPP with dialup

[MJW]

I had a quick look at the readme.txt for tracetcp. It mentions the following:
If you need to use the program with a dial-up connection then you can revert to the old raw sockets interface by using the -R switch (this will not work with XP sp2 of course)

As luck would have it, I'm on dialup and am using XP with service pack 2 installed.

I've got a spare hard drive lying around so I'll stick an earlier version of XP on it (prior to sp2) and try tracetcp with the raw sockets interface. It might be a few days before I report back to this forum on how everything goes though.

Thanks again.

[petestrash]

Damn dialup...maybe you should just move to ADSL

[petestrash]

Can try this from your TiVo, not sure it will prove a proxy though.

traceroute -p 80 ftp.monash.edu.au
traceroute -p 21 ftp.monash.edu.au

And post the results here.

Peter.

[MJW]

There is another test I would like to try.

This uses your PC, not the TiVo.

Download WinPcap_4_0_1.exe to any location and install it.

Then download tracetcp-0.99.4beta.zip to any location and then unzip it into your root directory (c:\).

Open a command prompt and make sure you are in the root directory (cd \), then run the following commands.

C:\tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:ftp

C:\tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:http

You will get a number of lines displayed over a period time after each command. Once complete copy all the outputs and post them here.

Peter.

I've now run Tracetcp on a drive with Windows XP SP1 installed. I had to run this program with the raw sockets switch (-R) otherwise I get "Error retrieving MAC address of the adapter". Results are attached but FTP and HTTP show the same number of hops to the destination.

[petestrash]

I don't know if tracetcp is a definitive test yet, but it doesn't show any proxy on your connection.

Would still like you to try the traceroute command on your TiVo mentioned a couple of posts up. It may show some other issues connecting through your software bridge.

On the TiVo can you also try the commands:
route
ifconfig

Peter.

[MJW]

I don't know if tracetcp is a definitive test yet, but it doesn't show any proxy on your connection.

Would still like you to try the traceroute command on your TiVo mentioned a couple of posts up. It may show some other issues connecting through your software bridge.

On the TiVo can you also try the commands:
route
ifconfig

Peter.

Results of the Traceroute, Route and Ifconfig command are shown below. I have changed the Client and Server IPs slightly from my first posts to this thread as I've recently tried Internet Connection Sharing (requires 192.168.0.1 on my PC). Does the Tivo send make the First Call using the IP address for the OzTivo emulator or does it use a Hostname?

[TiVo [p0] ~]# traceroute -p 80 ftp.monash.edu.au
traceroute: unknown host ftp.monash.edu.au
[TiVo [p0] ~]#
[TiVo [p0] ~]# traceroute -p 21 ftp.monash.edu.au
traceroute: unknown host ftp.monash.edu.au
[TiVo [p0] ~]#
[TiVo [p0] ~]# route
route_info, afname=inet, options=33
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
192.168.0.1 * 255.255.255.255 U 32767 0 0 ppp0
default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0
[TiVo [p0] ~]#
[TiVo [p0] ~]# ifconfig
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0

ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:192.168.0.2 P-t-P:192.168.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:802 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:584 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0

[TiVo [p0] ~]#

[petestrash]

Does the Tivo send make the First Call using the IP address for the OzTivo emulator or does it use a Hostname?

It uses the IP address from memory.

Your results look normal.

I'm running out of ideas, as to why it's not working for you.

I don't know of anyone else running pppondss on a TiVo with a shared dial-up connection.

Any chance you want to upgrade to ADSL soon


Peter.

[MJW]

It uses the IP address from memory.

Your results look normal.

I'm running out of ideas, as to why it's not working for you.

I don't know of anyone else running pppondss on a TiVo with a shared dial-up connection.

Any chance you want to upgrade to ADSL soon


Peter.

Dialup is a pain but I'm hoping to buy a place before the end of this year so I've been putting off broadband until after I move.

I have just tried WinGate, instead of WinRoute Lite, for doing NAT.

I can see, via WinGate's history of NAT, that the Tivo makes 3 x UDP requests to 61.88.88.88:53 when I trigger the First Call Setup but nothing further appears in the logs and, a couple of minutes later, the Tivo gives the message: "Failed. Service unavailable" on the screen for the First Call Setup.

It looks to me like my problems stem from the fact that I wasn't able to run the Updater when I imaged the drives on the Tivo.

[petestrash]

Ok,

Port 53 is used for DNS queries, and 61.88.x.x is owned by Optus. I don't believe the TiVo is making these requests directly as the TiVo doesn't know your DNS IP. It is possible that the TiVo may be using minnie.tuhs.org in it's request, and your PC is sending the request to your ISP's DNS server.

I didn't notice traceroute failed because of DNS issues in post 26. It looks like you might have DNS broken on your TiVo. Try the following:

traceroute -p 21 130.194.11.222
traceroute -p 80 130.194.11.222
traceroute -p 21 131.244.9.101
traceroute -p 80 131.244.9.101
traceroute -p 80 minnie.tuhs.org

Peter.

[MJW]

Ok,

Port 53 is used for DNS queries, and 61.88.x.x is owned by Optus. I don't believe the TiVo is making these requests directly as the TiVo doesn't know your DNS IP. It is possible that the TiVo may be using minnie.tuhs.org in it's request, and your PC is sending the request to your ISP's DNS server.

I didn't notice traceroute failed because of DNS issues in post 26. It looks like you might have DNS broken on your TiVo. Try the following:

traceroute -p 21 130.194.11.222
traceroute -p 80 130.194.11.222
traceroute -p 21 131.244.9.101
traceroute -p 80 131.244.9.101
traceroute -p 80 minnie.tuhs.org

Peter.

Attached are the results from Traceroute on Tivo. These seemed to take a VERY long time to complete.

I've also attached a log from WinGate for two reasons: 1) It shows how long Traceroute took. 2) There was a HUGE number of UDP requests to 61.88.88.88:53 occuring while I ran the Traceroute commands. It looks like the Tivo was generating these but maybe I don't have WinGate setup correctly?!?

Out of interest - I'm using Bizmail for dialup. Is the DNS server (61.88.88.88) something that other ISPs might use if they are using Optus infrastructure further along?