Use nzTivo Image (based on 1.5) or OzTivo 1.6.2 ??

[NoSignal]

I decided to re-image and try again. A slightly simpler setup, but it works

I have taken over 100 photos of every step along the way if someone wants to edit these into a nice tutorial. I'm afraid I can't - I have already waaay overstretched my free time for the forseeable future (at time of writing, I have already re-imaged and I am trying postcode 02120).

Conclusion: ozTivo 1.6.2 is quite easy to use in NZ (it's much more user friendly now and has considerable provision for New Zealand) as long as you follow the walkthrough and don't do the following:
- Don't use postcodes that are just for one city - ozTivo does not support them fully yet.
- Don't hope to use both modem and LAN right away. Using both is hard right out of the box. However, catdog apparently has a solution (see a couple of posts up).
- Don't use nic_config_tivo via terminal (serial) or telnet (LAN). For me, as soon as I do something in nic_config_tivo I can no longer use the modem successfully.
- Don't boot up tivo with both LAN and serial plugged in - it will probably freeze at bootup screen.
- Do double check connections and fresh batteries in the remote

My (simpler) setup: NZ Free To Air, One Source, Modem connection.
(as 'code' to retain formatting).

I started by Using ozTivo 1.6.2 2006-11-06 with installer v1.23 (not internet updated to 1.24)
- I selected the disk and imaged it. Then,
- Network -> Modem -> Add ISP details
- Network -> Emulator -> NZ 210.48.107.133, port 8000
- PalMod -> (option 4, then 1, then 3). Changes the horizontal resolution to 720.
  - Good for archiving to DVD.
  - you may see artifacts on the screen on some TIVOs (maxing out the MPEG2 chip). So can change back.
- While in PalMod -> (3, 3, 2, 7, 5.) to select the NZ frequency table - the default is Aussie.
- While in PalMod -> (3) then change RF Output to channel 60 (what my TV is tuned to).
- While in PalMod -> Save and Exit.

Then I installed the HDD and booted into Guided setup:
First time round I made and error in GS which caused problems, but I redid GS as follows:
Welcome to ozTivo - press select 
ozTivo Service Terms - press select
Program Source - Select "I have one source".
Zip Code - Enter 02112 (for NZ FTA (Cable)), press select
Time Zone - press "Pick me! Pick me!" 
Daylight Savings - select "Pick me instead, I'm the choice you need to make". 
Area Code - Enter 002 and press select 
Phone Dialing Options - select "continue" and press select 
Setup Call - Press select to go past this screen 
  It will take a while to connect and do it's thing. 
  Let it do its thing (go make a coffee or play quake for a bit) 
  When finished press select 
Dial In Numbers - should already be configured, 
  so choose "done trying area codes" and press select 
No local Numbers - choose "sales and marketing program" and press select 
Set you FIRST Input - choose "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" and press select
  - Also available: "I'm using a Set Top Box
First Input Lineup - choose "Christchurch - Antenna, CH"
  - Other Cities available (due to using the NZ-wide PostCode)
This Option Doesn't Work - choose "Christchurch" and press select
Channels You Receive - keep the Add all channels and press the right arrow. 
  You can always add more or remove some later. 
Guide Data Call - press select to let it do it's daily call for guide data. 
Before you can record - read and press select.
Congratulations! - read and press TIVO button.
You're done with G/Setup. Leave it for a few hours (4-8 hours) and then reset.

Results:
- Time - Correct time (after restart)
- Channels - all correct, though one missing. 42 = Something. Not sure, but Watermarked "Arirang" and "Korean Global TV"
- A message with Serial PPP link: IP Address of 202.14.102.198
  - I tried connecting to it in IE7 (with http:// in front) but failed.
  - I probably need to do some kind of network config on the PC for that to work. 

Other:
- I tried GS again with the new 02120 postcode, but "No cable provider" error.
  - Apparently have to try that postcode with a fresh image.
- I used nic_config_tivo and configured modem (with exactly the same settings I had before).
  - Now in first conection of GS, says "Failed. Service not answering".
  - I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
- I used nic_config_tivo and tried to configure emulator.
  - Failed with the following error message (clipped):
    /sbin/nic_config_tivo: line 2:   472 Illegal Instruction    $dialog --backtitle "$backtitle" --title     ...
  - I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
- I used nic_config_tivo and configured TurboNet.
  - Only changes are in oztivo.net: "nic=TurboNet" and "netmask="
- I reset the TIVO with LAN connected. In GS mode.
  - Worked fine, until I tried to connect to tivo'sIP with ftp, http or telnet. Then tivo froze (remote control and background motion graphics all stop responding).

[NoSignal]

you CAN use both a turbonet card and modem simultaneously, but you have to edit a couple of files manually instead of using nic_config_tivo. Let me know if you want help with this.

Hi catdog, I would like to take you up on that offer.

When oztivo.conf (in ozTivo 1.6.2) has nic=modem I tried running ifconfig - it says I only have a "lo" device - no "eth" device.

[catdog]

Hi catdog, I would like to take you up on that offer.

When oztivo.conf (in ozTivo 1.6.2) has nic=modem I tried running ifconfig - it says I only have a "lo" device - no "eth" device.

The approach I took to make daily calls via the modem, and still have network access to the tivo (for oztivo 1.6.2):

from the installer/nic_config_tivo, setup the TurboNet card (IP address, MAC etc)

edit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local

dbrm /State/PhoneConfig DialPrefix
dbsetx /State/PhoneConfig DialToneCheck 0

If this file does not exist you will need to create it, then make sure it is executable
dos2unix /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local (if created on a windows machine)
chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local

edit /etc/tclient.conf

127:ispphone:127.0.0.1:8000:ispusername:isppassword:

where ispphone, ispusername, and isppassword are your ISP login details

edit /etc/ppp-options

user ISPusername

edit /etc/pap-secrets

*   *   ISPpassword

NOTE: it is a single TAB after each *, not spaces

Hope this helps

[NoSignal]

DJC, maybe I have an incorrect assumption that nzTivo image uses similar (parallel) version numbering? This is not clear in the relevant forum thread. So is it a branch of ozTivo (if so, branch from which version?). Or do nzTivo developers copy versions of ozTivo that are released and apply the same NZ specific tweaks to them each time? Although even from the date shown, it does not seem that it could have all the updates listed in the ozTivo logs. It would be nice if the nzTivo image thread could address these issues so users can make an informed decision. After putting so many hours of valuable work into these developments, I would have thought it would warrant putting a couple more minutes into description/documentation of what has been done.

[NoSignal]

Ok, I've tried those suggestions:

I ran palmod_config and selected the NZ frequency table. Before this, I was (probably coincidentally) getting one channel - TV2. After, I am getting no channels. So I don't think I am doing anything wrong - I think the Christchurch postcode has been fully implemented in ozTivo 1.6.2 (which is confirmed by below).

I edited /etc/postcodezones and added Christchurch (02123). /bin/ntpdate ... does not have the error now, but it does say "Failed to connect to any of the time servers". I guess it doesn't work with a modem. Back in tivo, time is still wrong. I didn't wait for a daily update (because is not modem not connecting now), but I suspect that is would have change the time then). So I think this is fixed (someone may want to add the Christchurch postcode to the next ozTivo image release).

I double-checked the modem settings, and it seems like it should work, but it doesn't. I even put the tivo hdd back in my pc and re-did the settings through knoppix (setting the emulator doesn't crash there). However, when I looked at the changes it made, they were the same as nic_config_tivo - even the emulator adrress had been changed to 127.0.0.1 in tclient.conf. Maybe the address doesn't matter there, because the correct nz emulator IP is in oztivo.conf. Anyway, I even tried a second ISP, but had the same problem. As my modem worked before nic_config_tivo, I think this is a problem with nic_config_tivo - maybe when it failed, or maybe when changing from turbonet to modem, there is something it forgets to change. But I guess as modem is not supported, maybe I can't hope for too much.

And then I used nic_config_tivo to setup TurboNet use instead of modem. I could telnet in over lan, establish an ftp connection on ftp://tivo'siIP, but going to TivoWebPlus at http://tivo'siIP did not work. After less than 30 minutes usgin LAN, my tivo started crashing - remote did not work, telnet connection stopped responding and the subtle moving graphics in the background stopped moving. After a hard reset it worked for a few minutes and then crashed again. After another hard reset it only lasted for about 10 seconds. I'm guessing that is a problem with my turbonet card rather than the ozTivo image.

[Darren King]

"crash" as in freeze or reboot?

If you mean freeze then edit the /etc/oztivo.conf file from timing=3 to timing=16 and try again. I *think* the nz image still has an oztivo.conf file. You could also try using nic_config_tivo and altering the timing setting there but the current oztivo image has issues with the setting actually changing. Not sure about the nz image but worth a shot I suppose.

If you mean reboot then I have no idea.

[NoSignal]

"crash" as in freeze or reboot?...

As in freeze. I did choose "Failsafe" in nic_config_tivo which is "16" from memory, but the setting changes you say? Well, I've re-imaged and now I don't want to touch nic_config_tivo because that seems to make the modem fail permanently, regardless of later editing of the conf files or re-running nic_config_tivo

So far, I have only used the ozTivo image.

[Darren King]

As in freeze. I did choose "Failsafe" in nic_config_tivo which is "16" from memory, but the setting changes you say? Well, I've re-imaged and now I don't want to touch nic_config_tivo because that seems to make the modem fail permanently, regardless of later editing of the conf files or re-running nic_config_tivo

So far, I have only used the ozTivo image.

Well if you want to stop the freezing you *HAVE* to alter the timing setting. I can't see how manually editing the oztivo.conf file would upset your modem connection but if you are that afraid then you have no choice but to unplug the network cable to stop the freezing.

[NoSignal]

So to reflect, my motivation on this thread was that the ozTivo image seems to have so many concessions for NZ now that it hardly seems necessary for people to go to the extra effort of making a NZ version. Wouldn't that extra effort be better put into helping with slight tweaks to the ozTivo image (maybe I'm just naive)? In addition, I'd always prefer to use an image that is 1 year younger, with quite a few new bug fixes, given a choice...

[DJC]

So to reflect, my motivation on this thread was that the ozTivo image seems to have so many concessions for NZ now that it hardly seems necessary for people to go to the extra effort of making a NZ version. Wouldn't that extra effort be better put into helping with slight tweaks to the ozTivo image (maybe I'm just naive)? In addition, I'd always prefer to use an image that is 1 year younger, with quite a few new bug fixes, given a choice...

You're welcome to take it on.

Testing documenting and confirming operation for users.