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    Thanks guys. I will try your suggestions catdog. And to clarify:

    Regarding nic_config_tivo. Beforehand, in the Knoppix imaging app, I had selected the NZ emulator and changed the port to 8000. During GS it dialed up and connected fine. Yes, after the error tclient.conf contained 127::127.0.0.1:8000::: except it had my dialup ISP's phone number, username and password in there. I then manually edited it back to the NZ emulator and port 8000, but when redoing GS, "First Setup Call" says says "Failed. Service unavailable." I just tried again and it said "Failed. Service not answering."

    Regarding signal inputs, in Guided setup I chose second input as "AV Input - Satellite, AV" and first input as "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" (in that order). The reason for this was I wanted to use my PAL Tuner via antenna as my primary channel source, but I also wanted to be able to manually record AV input (from handycam etc), and I didn't think it would hurt to be able to tap into VCR channels as well (though that might have complicated issues). What I was noting was that in system info, input 1 and 2 are flipped, so antenna is considered input 2 - I thought this might mean it would try using the VCR channels first.

    Its a pity about the modem/lan exclusivity. I don't have broadband at home, but wanted to be able to connect to tivo via lan, so I got a TurboNet card. At the time, you could use both. Looks like that might have been a bit of a waste of money. But I'm sure the developers have their reasons, so I'll find a way, who knows, maybe even get broadband (which will cost almost as much as the tivo every year...).

    Anyway, I'll try your suggestions now. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSignal View Post
    Regarding signal inputs, in Guided setup I chose second input as "AV Input - Satellite, AV" and first input as "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" (in that order). The reason for this was I wanted to use my PAL Tuner via antenna as my primary channel source, but I also wanted to be able to manually record AV input (from handycam etc), and I didn't think it would hurt to be able to tap into VCR channels as well (though that might have complicated issues).
    That will work fine. Apologies I forgot you had an internal PAL tuner and thought you were trying to use the VCR as the exclusive tuner source.

    What I was noting was that in system info, input 1 and 2 are flipped, so antenna is considered input 2 - I thought this might mean it would try using the VCR channels first.
    It's not actually a priority thing. There is not really a "primary" and "secondary" hierarchy. It is merely two inputs. To choose the inputs as you described above is usually how I do it when setting up a TiVo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSignal View Post
    Its a pity about the modem/lan exclusivity. I don't have broadband at home, but wanted to be able to connect to tivo via lan, so I got a TurboNet card. At the time, you could use both.
    Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression here - you CAN use both a turbonet card and modem simultaneously, but you have to edit a couple of files manually instead of using nic_config_tivo. Let me know if you want help with this.

    To figure out your connection problem, check the log at /var/log/tclient
    You may also need to use my hack depending on which ISP you are connecting to.

    It sounds like you may have bigger problems to worry about first though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catdog View Post
    Let me know if you want help with this.
    Awsome. Very keen on this, but you are right - I have a couple of other things to work through first. Thanks heaps.

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    New Walkthrough for using ozTivo 1.6.2 Image in New Zealand:

    I decided to re-image and try again. A slightly simpler setup, but it works

    I have taken over 100 photos of every step along the way if someone wants to edit these into a nice tutorial. I'm afraid I can't - I have already waaay overstretched my free time for the forseeable future (at time of writing, I have already re-imaged and I am trying postcode 02120).

    Conclusion: ozTivo 1.6.2 is quite easy to use in NZ (it's much more user friendly now and has considerable provision for New Zealand) as long as you follow the walkthrough and don't do the following:
    - Don't use postcodes that are just for one city - ozTivo does not support them fully yet.
    - Don't hope to use both modem and LAN right away. Using both is hard right out of the box. However, catdog apparently has a solution (see a couple of posts up).
    - Don't use nic_config_tivo via terminal (serial) or telnet (LAN). For me, as soon as I do something in nic_config_tivo I can no longer use the modem successfully.
    - Don't boot up tivo with both LAN and serial plugged in - it will probably freeze at bootup screen.
    - Do double check connections and fresh batteries in the remote

    My (simpler) setup: NZ Free To Air, One Source, Modem connection.
    (as 'code' to retain formatting).

    Code:
    I started by Using ozTivo 1.6.2 2006-11-06 with installer v1.23 (not internet updated to 1.24)
    - I selected the disk and imaged it. Then,
    - Network -> Modem -> Add ISP details
    - Network -> Emulator -> NZ 210.48.107.133, port 8000
    - PalMod -> (option 4, then 1, then 3). Changes the horizontal resolution to 720.
      - Good for archiving to DVD.
      - you may see artifacts on the screen on some TIVOs (maxing out the MPEG2 chip). So can change back.
    - While in PalMod -> (3, 3, 2, 7, 5.) to select the NZ frequency table - the default is Aussie.
    - While in PalMod -> (3) then change RF Output to channel 60 (what my TV is tuned to).
    - While in PalMod -> Save and Exit.
    
    Then I installed the HDD and booted into Guided setup:
    First time round I made and error in GS which caused problems, but I redid GS as follows:
    Welcome to ozTivo - press select 
    ozTivo Service Terms - press select
    Program Source - Select "I have one source".
    Zip Code - Enter 02112 (for NZ FTA (Cable)), press select
    Time Zone - press "Pick me! Pick me!" 
    Daylight Savings - select "Pick me instead, I'm the choice you need to make". 
    Area Code - Enter 002 and press select 
    Phone Dialing Options - select "continue" and press select 
    Setup Call - Press select to go past this screen 
      It will take a while to connect and do it's thing. 
      Let it do its thing (go make a coffee or play quake for a bit) 
      When finished press select 
    Dial In Numbers - should already be configured, 
      so choose "done trying area codes" and press select 
    No local Numbers - choose "sales and marketing program" and press select 
    Set you FIRST Input - choose "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" and press select
      - Also available: "I'm using a Set Top Box
    First Input Lineup - choose "Christchurch - Antenna, CH"
      - Other Cities available (due to using the NZ-wide PostCode)
    This Option Doesn't Work - choose "Christchurch" and press select
    Channels You Receive - keep the Add all channels and press the right arrow. 
      You can always add more or remove some later. 
    Guide Data Call - press select to let it do it's daily call for guide data. 
    Before you can record - read and press select.
    Congratulations! - read and press TIVO button.
    You're done with G/Setup. Leave it for a few hours (4-8 hours) and then reset.
    
    Results:
    - Time - Correct time (after restart)
    - Channels - all correct, though one missing. 42 = Something. Not sure, but Watermarked "Arirang" and "Korean Global TV"
    - A message with Serial PPP link: IP Address of 202.14.102.198
      - I tried connecting to it in IE7 (with http:// in front) but failed.
      - I probably need to do some kind of network config on the PC for that to work. 
    
    Other:
    - I tried GS again with the new 02120 postcode, but "No cable provider" error.
      - Apparently have to try that postcode with a fresh image.
    - I used nic_config_tivo and configured modem (with exactly the same settings I had before).
      - Now in first conection of GS, says "Failed. Service not answering".
      - I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
    - I used nic_config_tivo and tried to configure emulator.
      - Failed with the following error message (clipped):
        /sbin/nic_config_tivo: line 2:   472 Illegal Instruction    $dialog --backtitle "$backtitle" --title     ...
      - I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
    - I used nic_config_tivo and configured TurboNet.
      - Only changes are in oztivo.net: "nic=TurboNet" and "netmask="
    - I reset the TIVO with LAN connected. In GS mode.
      - Worked fine, until I tried to connect to tivo'sIP with ftp, http or telnet. Then tivo froze (remote control and background motion graphics all stop responding).
    Last edited by NoSignal; 16-08-2007 at 07:06 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by catdog View Post
    you CAN use both a turbonet card and modem simultaneously, but you have to edit a couple of files manually instead of using nic_config_tivo. Let me know if you want help with this.
    Hi catdog, I would like to take you up on that offer.

    When oztivo.conf (in ozTivo 1.6.2) has nic=modem I tried running ifconfig - it says I only have a "lo" device - no "eth" device.

    US Phillips HDR112 TIVO, TurboNet, PAL Tuner, 80gb HDD. Work, Fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSignal View Post
    Hi catdog, I would like to take you up on that offer.

    When oztivo.conf (in ozTivo 1.6.2) has nic=modem I tried running ifconfig - it says I only have a "lo" device - no "eth" device.
    The approach I took to make daily calls via the modem, and still have network access to the tivo (for oztivo 1.6.2):

    from the installer/nic_config_tivo, setup the TurboNet card (IP address, MAC etc)

    edit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local
    Code:
    dbrm /State/PhoneConfig DialPrefix
    dbsetx /State/PhoneConfig DialToneCheck 0
    If this file does not exist you will need to create it, then make sure it is executable
    dos2unix /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local (if created on a windows machine)
    chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.local

    edit /etc/tclient.conf
    Code:
    127:ispphone:127.0.0.1:8000:ispusername:isppassword:
    where ispphone, ispusername, and isppassword are your ISP login details

    edit /etc/ppp-options
    Code:
    user ISPusername
    edit /etc/pap-secrets
    Code:
    *   *   ISPpassword
    NOTE: it is a single TAB after each *, not spaces

    Hope this helps

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