TiVoWebPlus 1.3.1 suggestions

[petestrash]

Just tried the 29th of March Distribution via the update command and it gives the following error loading the homepage.

INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_ '' ''
can't read "::conf(Prefix)": no such variable
while executing
"return "

""
(procedure "IE_alpha_support" line 4)
invoked from within
"IE_alpha_support"
(procedure "html_start" line 34)
invoked from within
"html_start """
(procedure "::action_" line 2)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--

tivoweb.log shows the following. The config option not recognised error is new. didn't come up in 070111 which I had previously.

[TiVo [p0] /var/log]# cat tivoweb.log
TivoWebPlus - v1.3.1 (1.3.1 (oztivo-070329))
The program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This program is licensed under the GPL.
See the 'docs/copyright' and 'docs/index.html' files
for copyright and credit information.
PoolSize=2916352
Config option not recognized: 'TyShowLinks = 0'
TimeZone: GMT
Loading modules...
ChannelMap
backup
channelgrid
channelprefs
confresManual
debug
displaytext
extract
favicon
folders
gallery
gdchecker
higuide
index
-initializing logo index
-initializing channel table
--caching 12 channels for source of type=3 (DBS)
--fully processed 12 of 12 channels for source of type=3 (DBS)
-initializing genre table
-initializing now showing cache
-initializing season pass cache
info
lj_utils
logos
logs
mail
manrec
merge
mfsbrowser
mrv
netconfig
phone
reorder
resources
Loaded 89 resource definitions
rss
sched
screen
script
search
sysadmin
theme
ui
update
webremote
whatson
wishlists
xlist
{more}
Accepting Connections
192.168.1.100 - - [29/Mar/2007:23:16:04] "/"
[TiVo [p0] /var/log]# cat tivoweb.log
TivoWebPlus - v1.3.1 (1.3.1 (oztivo-070329))
The program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This program is licensed under the GPL.
See the 'docs/copyright' and 'docs/index.html' files
for copyright and credit information.
PoolSize=2916352
Config option not recognized: 'TyShowLinks = 0'
TimeZone: GMT
Loading modules...
ChannelMap
backup
channelgrid
channelprefs
confresManual
debug
displaytext
extract
favicon
folders
gallery
gdchecker
higuide
index
-initializing logo index
-initializing channel table
--caching 12 channels for source of type=3 (DBS)
--fully processed 12 of 12 channels for source of type=3 (DBS)
-initializing genre table
-initializing now showing cache
-initializing season pass cache
info
lj_utils
logos
logs
mail
manrec
merge
mfsbrowser
mrv
netconfig
phone
reorder
resources
Loaded 89 resource definitions
rss
sched
screen
script
search
sysadmin
theme
ui
update
webremote
whatson
wishlists
xlist
{more}
Accepting Connections
192.168.1.100 - - [29/Mar/2007:23:16:04] "/"

I have double checked the size of the download and it's 518k, so shouldn't be the googlepages issue.

Is there a command line update command so I can roll back to the 2nd last release without wiping my custom config files ?

Peter.

PS does the keyboard ffw shortcut attempt to redraw the remote graphic?

[thomson]

INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
can't read "::conf(Prefix)": no such variable

Sorry... typo. Would have affected users of IE6. Should be fixed in 070403.

The packages can be updated from the command line using the instructions on the web site. Basically you just need to transfer the bundle to the TiVo and then "cd /var/hack" and "tar xvzf tivowebplus-v1.3.1-070403.tgz"

[petestrash]

As an update I have tried 070321 on another TiVo, and it's fine.

Then re-downloaded 070329 and updated the 2nd TiVo again, now this Tivo has the same issues as reported in the last post.

Peter.

[TimesOwn]

Thank you for asking Pete!!! I wish....

I find SmartFTP copy and pastes are unreliable as they won't always connect, so they are fiddly. Something more user friendly would be nice.

This already exists in Sync Now Playing where you can start transfers from one TiVo to the other using the TiVo GUI.

How well does this work, and does it work with the current version of mfs_ftp as it specifies a different version?

I also would love the above referenced effort to enable one TiVo to view streams from other TiVos to become seemlessly intertwined into the TiVo TV and TWP Interface, so that perhaps there was a choice of which TiVo the "Now Playing" is being displayed from and work just as seamlessly. This seems the last major challenge for the TiVos, given the competing MythTV has many advantages over the TiVo including Remote viewing of TiVo's.

I would love the TWP Header to include the TiVo status with respect to confirming the last update suceeded, Temperature and remaining disc space (or perhaps to get an email from the Tivo of these things???!) The critical issue of remaining disc space is found right at the bottom of the info page, which is tedious. It would be nice if that page were two columns, given a wide enough screen. (To minimise need to scrool up and down)

I would love the TWP Header menu to mimic the TiVo screen menu's, they are well thought out and difficult to improve on, other than the phrases are not entirely intuitive, however they are so well known I would not dare suggest they be altered from.

I would love one summary web page which gave the status of all the TiVo's on the LAN.

[Charliektm400exc]

Use this thread for suggestions to improve TWP modules.

At this point Thomson is the only one actively working on providing improvements locally, but can only do so as time and inclination allows.

If you feel you can help, please speak up.

Peter.

OK two things that have occurred to me.


It would be good to have a way from within TWP to run the update_oztivo command.

The second one is a way of moving files to the TiVo and expanding them. It would need to specify where the file goes to, and where it comes from.

Both of these would be a great help to people who want to update and modify their TiVo, but are not comfortable with command line. Many of the hacks for the TiVo tell you where to put the file, but don't tell you how to copy the file to the TiVo and then expand it.


Charlie

[petestrash]

OK two things that have occurred to me.


It would be good to have a way from within TWP to run the update_oztivo command.

The second one is a way of moving files to the TiVo and expanding them. It would need to specify where the file goes to, and where it comes from.

Charlie,

Your first request is already a feature of TWP. Under SysAdmin there is a Script feature. Just type your instructions there and it will be executed.

But even simpler for the update command, just use the existing trickey sequence, press Clear, 9, 2, Clear on your remote to update the OzTiVo software.

As for the second request, an FTP client running on your PC/MAC already does a better job than TWP would do, with a better interface and minimal load on the TIVo. For example smartFTP will allow you to extract files on remote machines.

Also, there is a school of thought that if someone is not comfortable entering commands into telnet, then they probably shouldn't be installing the files in the first place as they will not have the skills to fix any problems or provide relevent info to help track down the fault.

Peter.

[Charliektm400exc]

Charlie,

Your first request is already a feature of TWP. Under SysAdmin there is a Script feature. Just type your instructions there and it will be executed.

But even simpler for the update command, just use the existing trickey sequence, press Clear, 9, 2, Clear on your remote to update the OzTiVo software.

As for the second request, an FTP client running on your PC/MAC already does a better job than TWP would do, with a better interface and minimal load on the TIVo. For example smartFTP will allow you to extract files on remote machines.

Also, there is a school of thought that if someone is not comfortable entering commands into telnet, then they probably shouldn't be installing the files in the first place as they will not have the skills to fix any problems or provide relevent info to help track down the fault.

Peter.

Peter,

OK didn't twig to the idea of using the script part.

Have never been able to get tricky to work. Only ever tried it on a couple of TiVo's that were updated from V3. Never been a problem in the past as I could just as easily do the updates in Telnet. I'm just about to image a disk with 1.6.2 from scratch, so will see if tricky works on this.

My problem is not with people who can't use telnet commands, it's the fact that people can't remember how to do the moving etc. This is just a way of making things easier for them.

Charlie

[petestrash]

Today's release has fixed the errors encountered in the 29th of March release.

I do now have an error with any key press in web remote.

For example the new triple command 'f', does send the 3 ffwd commands, but then shows:

INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_sendkey '/forward,forward,forward' ''
can't read "url_prefix": no such variable
while executing
"return "

""
(procedure "IE_alpha_support" line 4)
invoked from within
"IE_alpha_support"
(procedure "html_start" line 34)
invoked from within
"html_start "Web Remote""
(procedure "::action_sendkey" line 33)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--

The same error with any keypress including the originals.

Sorry,

Peter.

Edit. I get the same error when trying any module now. the only page that works is the home page.

[thomson]

I do now have an error with any key press in web remote.

Redownload the 070404 release which should fix this... or use IE7, Opera or FireFox :-)

[petestrash]

I have changed the name of this thread to represent v1.3.1, to avoid any confusion with 2.0.0 in the future.

Triple ffw and rew works fine now.

I do have another suggestion relating to the orphaned SP's module (/gdchecker/orphansps).

There is no way of deleting orphaned SP's easily from this screen. For an orphaned SP, all you can do is click on the series title. This takes you to the Series screen showing now playing and upcomming showings. But since there are no upcomming showings, you can't click on the episode title to make your way to the SP screen. Also on the series screen the series title is not clickable, so you cannot access the SP info from there either.

I would like to suggest either a check box for mass SP deletions, similar to what the TODO list and Now Playing currently have. Or alternatively a means of clicking from the orphans list to the SP screen (perhaps hyperlinking the SP number in the left column). If the multiple option is used, I would suggest a delay between each actual deletion occuring due the stress SP deletion puts on the TiVo.

Peter.