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    Distinguishing First-Run from Repeat shows

    If (as seems to be the case) the OzTiVo guide doesn't label a show as first-run or repeat, would the following method be a start to making this distinction available?

    If a program is shown at prime time (starting between 7 and 11 pm) and a show with the same name and duration is shown on the next or following day on the same channel in non-prime time, label the prime-time showing as first-run. Of course this algorithm will label as first-run repeats of shows that were previously shown months earlier, but it would be a start, and would save users interested to record only First-run showings from having to eliminate repeats on the To Do list or the Now Showing list.

    Just a thought.

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    100 people have now viewed this thread, but no OzTiVo specialist has replied. (I realise that they are working on other issues.) I have another thought. Would it be easy to implement a Season Pass selection that allows only programs shown in prime time (say starting between 6 pm and midnight) to be recorded? This would remove many repeats, which often are shown in the afternoon. And it would stop users from having to remove numerous repeats from the 'To Do' or 'Now Playing' list.

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    I don't think that suggestion is practical/implementable with the current system.
    There is some development work in a different direction which may help with season passes, but I can't give you a time frame for that.

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    As more than a year has now passed may I ask whether any progress has been made to distinguish first-run from repeat shows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edcba View Post
    As more than a year has now passed may I ask whether any progress has been made to distinguish first-run from repeat shows?
    Not really. There have been a couple of attempts but they haven't borne any fruit.

    I'm assuming you are talking about season passes and not getting multiple recordings of the same content when it is repeated at different times.

    The real issue here is that the oztivo database needs to know which episode (not just which series) is showing at a given time. That information flows through to your tivo and your tivo can then recognise whether a showing is an episode you have already recorded (in which case, skip it) or not (in which case, record it).

    There are two main ways that episode information could get into the oztivo database. One is for an automated system to get information about episodes. This is obviously the preferred long term approach, but it involves writing code and matching things up (significantly more complicated than we have currently), and this does not exist yet (although as I mentioned there have been a couple of attempts). The second is for volunteers to manually update the oztivo guide database, which can be done through a web interface in the same way that volunteers in some regions update oztivo to reflect late changes in scheduled programming. The problem here is that this involves manual work for every showing in every region (it may only be a few minutes each, but there are a lot of showings). Sometimes this happens, but it's patchy and region-dependent (at the moment Cairns probably has the best episode showing guide info in oztivo, thanks to Don).

    If there is someone out there who is a PHP programmer and has spare time to volunteer on automating episode information, please let me know.
    If you have some spare time and a web browser and want to help with the second approach for your area/region, see:
    [URL="http://https://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?2868-Looking-for-volunteers-to-update-local-guide-data&p=18689#post18689" Looking for volunteers to update local guide data[/URL]

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    Thanks, David, for your explanation. As you mention, I'd also like to be able to distinguish first-run from repeats of the same program. Have there been any developments on this function?

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    How did TiVo flag programs as first run back in the day?? I know here in NZ it seemed to work OK for the main channels but others it didn't and you'd get multiple recordings ..

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