until we have a better solution, why don't those of us with some time and/or programming skills volunteer to look after a particular channel or channels, grab what we can and manually fill in the rest from other sources like skywatch magazine, tv guide etc.. Jaidev, Timmy.. would you be happy to share the current grabber stuff (or least point us in the right direction) so we can start tinkering with it? we could then upload our data somewhere central so a slice can be created..just a suggestion - what do you think?