Use nzTivo Image (based on 1.5) or OzTivo 1.6.2 ??
I wanted to add this message as a post to the "FAQ: New Zealand Custom Install Images" thread, but that thread is a closed FAQ.
I am something of a Tivo newbie, but have been working my way through an old ozTivo 1.5 manual install with instructions over at the www.nztivo.net wiki. I then found that the ozTivo image is up to 1.6.2 and has improved a lot, including being able to choose the NZ emulator from a list, and connecting to the internet to update itself (the installer now does an online update from v1.23 to v1.24). Therefore I imaged my tivo HDD with 1.6.2 and have updated the http://www.nztivo.net/index.php/ImageWithScreenShots1.4 to be relevant to v1.6.2 whilst keeping information unique to NZ.
I then found the nzTivo image (there go a few hours I'll never get back :().
So I was wondering if it is better to use the nzTivo Image (apparently based on v1.5 Aug06) or OzTivo 1.6.2 (updated in Nov06, with subsequent online updates) and select the NZ emulator from a list.
Looking at http://minnie.tuhs.org/twiki/bin/vie...ntImageRelease it seems the ozTivo Image has made some significant improvements over the subsequent 4 updates, but I can't tell if it will be as compatible with the NZ new (port 8000) emulator as the nzTivo Image. It concerns me that ozTivo 1.6.2 had a default emulator port of 80 (not hard to change to 8000).
I guess I'll suck it and see how the 1.6.2 guided setup goes in NZ. But being a newbie, I won't really know what to expect. It would help if someone who made the nzTivo changes could document what they changed.
Its great to have found this active NZ community.
Update 16/08/2007
Conclusion: ozTivo 1.6.2 is quite easy to use in NZ (it's much more user friendly now and has considerable provision for New Zealand) as long as you follow the walkthrough later in the thread
and don't do the following:
- Don't use postcodes that are just for one city - ozTivo does not support them fully yet.
- Don't hope to use both modem and LAN. Using both has been disabled in the current image. I have not found a way around this. In theory you can change your config from one to other with nic_config_tivo, but see below.
- Don't use nic_config_tivo via terminal (serial) or telnet (LAN). For me, as soon as I do something in nic_config_tivo I can no longer use the modem successfully.
- Don't boot up tivo with both LAN and serial plugged in - it will probably freeze at bootup screen.
- Do double check connections and fresh batteries in the remote.
But then, most of these apply to the nzTivo image too...
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Suggested change for locked thread
Oh, and also in the "FAQ: New Zealand Custom Install Images" thread, the links to the .iso files are now broken. Versions of those files do exist, but their names have changed. I thought someone might want to update the links, or simply provide a link to the folder, from where people can see a list of exactly what is there.
Testing ozTivo 1.6.2 Image in New Zealand
I thought I would try testing ozTivo Image v1.6.2 so see if its more recent updates made it worth considering against the nzTivo image.
Conclusion: While it is getting much more user friendly now and has some provision for New Zealand, it may still be easier (with minimal disadvantages) to use the nzTivo image. Though I haven't tried the nzTivo image yet.
Some ozTivo developers may find some unexpected bugs in my results below.
My setup: Christchurch Free To Air, Two Source (FTA and AV), Modem connection.
Welcome to ozTivo - press select
ozTivo Service Terms - press select
Program Source - Select "I have two sources"
Zip Code - Enter 02123, press select
Time Zone - press "Pick me! Pick me!"
Daylight Savings - select "Pick me instead, I'm the choice you need to make".
Area Code - Enter 002 and press select
Phone Dialing Options - select "continue" and press select
Setup Call - Press select to go past this screen
It will take a while to connect and do it's thing.
Let it do its thing (go make a coffee or play quake for a bit)
When finished press select
Dial In Numbers - should already be configured,
so choose "done trying area codes" and press select
No local Numbers - choose "sales and marketing program" and press select
Set you SECOND Input - choose "AV Input - Satellite, AV" and press select
- Also available: "Freeview - Satellite, FV" and "Sky Digital - Satellite, NZ"
Set you FIRST Input - choose "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" and press select
- Also available: "I'm using a Set Top Box
First Input Lineup - choose "Christchurch - Antenna, CH"
- No other options (due to the specific PostCode used)
This Option Doesn't Work - choose "Christchurch" and press select
Channels You Receive - keep the Add all channels and press the right arrow.
You can always add more or remove some later.
Connections to Recorder - review the Connections (choose Composite or SVideo for Second Source, Confirm Status: Video OK), then choose "Accept these input settings" and press select
Control Cable/Sat. Setup - choose "Second Source" and press select
- In my case, "First Source" correctly says "Not Required"
SetTopBox IR Control - choose "Infrared" and press select
Follow the prompts on screen - depends on your setup.
Then choose "Accept these input settings" and press select
Let it do it's daily call bit for guide data.
You're done with G/Setup, reboot.
Results:
- Back in the Knoppix Network setup, NZ Emulator default port is 80. It should now be 8000.
- I get TV guide data, but time is two hours behind. I tried "/bin/ntpdate -b -v 132.163.4.103 192.43.244.18 129.6.15.29" but got "Our postcode is 02123. No matching timezone for postcode 02123". So I think it is using an Auzzie timezone (even though I chose Christchurch). So maybe a slight fault in the headend?
- I can't get my TurboNet card working. Probably not relevant, but...
- I ran "nic_config_tivo" and tried to configure emulator (e, Enter), but got the following error message (clipped):
"/sbin/nic_config_tivo: line 2: 562 Illegal Instruction $dialog --backtitle "$backtitle" --title"...
- after this, tclient.conf is only 1 line long and it reset my emulator IP address, even though I never changed it in nic_config_tivo
- I am having trouble seeing channels. Partly cos I need to redo IR blaster for my VCR (or just make turn VCR into pure AV with no channels). Also, in tivo system info, it says antenna is input 2 and AV is input 1. So maybe better if antenna is input 1?
- So I went back into GS mode. However, now when modem dials up it says "Failed. Service unavailable.". It Says "Dialing" (Dials out ok). "Connecting" (Seems to connect to ISP ok). So I am stumped. Could be because nic_config_tivo had an error.
- At this point I gave up, as modem in australia is not supported. I will try the nzTivo image tomorrow, unless anyone want me to test anything else.
New Walkthrough for using ozTivo 1.6.2 Image in New Zealand:
I decided to re-image and try again. A slightly simpler setup, but it works :D
I have taken over 100 photos of every step along the way if someone wants to edit these into a nice tutorial. I'm afraid I can't - I have already waaay overstretched my free time for the forseeable future (at time of writing, I have already re-imaged and I am trying postcode 02120).
Conclusion: ozTivo 1.6.2 is quite easy to use in NZ (it's much more user friendly now and has considerable provision for New Zealand) as long as you follow the walkthrough and don't do the following:
- Don't use postcodes that are just for one city - ozTivo does not support them fully yet.
- Don't hope to use both modem and LAN right away. Using both is hard right out of the box. However, catdog apparently has a solution (see a couple of posts up).
- Don't use nic_config_tivo via terminal (serial) or telnet (LAN). For me, as soon as I do something in nic_config_tivo I can no longer use the modem successfully.
- Don't boot up tivo with both LAN and serial plugged in - it will probably freeze at bootup screen.
- Do double check connections and fresh batteries in the remote :o
My (simpler) setup: NZ Free To Air, One Source, Modem connection.
(as 'code' to retain formatting).
Code:
I started by Using ozTivo 1.6.2 2006-11-06 with installer v1.23 (not internet updated to 1.24)
- I selected the disk and imaged it. Then,
- Network -> Modem -> Add ISP details
- Network -> Emulator -> NZ 210.48.107.133, port 8000
- PalMod -> (option 4, then 1, then 3). Changes the horizontal resolution to 720.
- Good for archiving to DVD.
- you may see artifacts on the screen on some TIVOs (maxing out the MPEG2 chip). So can change back.
- While in PalMod -> (3, 3, 2, 7, 5.) to select the NZ frequency table - the default is Aussie.
- While in PalMod -> (3) then change RF Output to channel 60 (what my TV is tuned to).
- While in PalMod -> Save and Exit.
Then I installed the HDD and booted into Guided setup:
First time round I made and error in GS which caused problems, but I redid GS as follows:
Welcome to ozTivo - press select
ozTivo Service Terms - press select
Program Source - Select "I have one source".
Zip Code - Enter 02112 (for NZ FTA (Cable)), press select
Time Zone - press "Pick me! Pick me!"
Daylight Savings - select "Pick me instead, I'm the choice you need to make".
Area Code - Enter 002 and press select
Phone Dialing Options - select "continue" and press select
Setup Call - Press select to go past this screen
It will take a while to connect and do it's thing.
Let it do its thing (go make a coffee or play quake for a bit)
When finished press select
Dial In Numbers - should already be configured,
so choose "done trying area codes" and press select
No local Numbers - choose "sales and marketing program" and press select
Set you FIRST Input - choose "I'm using an Antenna and a PAL Tuner" and press select
- Also available: "I'm using a Set Top Box
First Input Lineup - choose "Christchurch - Antenna, CH"
- Other Cities available (due to using the NZ-wide PostCode)
This Option Doesn't Work - choose "Christchurch" and press select
Channels You Receive - keep the Add all channels and press the right arrow.
You can always add more or remove some later.
Guide Data Call - press select to let it do it's daily call for guide data.
Before you can record - read and press select.
Congratulations! - read and press TIVO button.
You're done with G/Setup. Leave it for a few hours (4-8 hours) and then reset.
Results:
- Time - Correct time (after restart)
- Channels - all correct, though one missing. 42 = Something. Not sure, but Watermarked "Arirang" and "Korean Global TV"
- A message with Serial PPP link: IP Address of 202.14.102.198
- I tried connecting to it in IE7 (with http:// in front) but failed.
- I probably need to do some kind of network config on the PC for that to work.
Other:
- I tried GS again with the new 02120 postcode, but "No cable provider" error.
- Apparently have to try that postcode with a fresh image.
- I used nic_config_tivo and configured modem (with exactly the same settings I had before).
- Now in first conection of GS, says "Failed. Service not answering".
- I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
- I used nic_config_tivo and tried to configure emulator.
- Failed with the following error message (clipped):
/sbin/nic_config_tivo: line 2: 472 Illegal Instruction $dialog --backtitle "$backtitle" --title ...
- I cannot see any changes to tclient.conf or oztivo.conf
- I used nic_config_tivo and configured TurboNet.
- Only changes are in oztivo.net: "nic=TurboNet" and "netmask="
- I reset the TIVO with LAN connected. In GS mode.
- Worked fine, until I tried to connect to tivo'sIP with ftp, http or telnet. Then tivo froze (remote control and background motion graphics all stop responding).
