hmm - not working. Does that suggest a problem? Is there another way I can get the file? Im running a pc with Win XP.
Sam
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hmm - not working. Does that suggest a problem? Is there another way I can get the file? Im running a pc with Win XP.
Sam
You *are* replacing the TIVOIPADDRESS bit of that command with the actual IP address of your TiVo?
yep - was putting: ftp://192.168.1.10/var/log/tclient
into internet explorer. It just crashed the browser....
Sam
Mine actually returns the file on the screen ( Bless you Vista for making things non-standard as usual ). So, may I suggest trying Firefox as a browser to do the trick.
If it does put the text on the screen, just copy and paste that into a txt file and then upload that.
Works on IE6 for me.
The other alternative would be to use an FTP program like smartftp to copy the file from the TiVo to your PC.
Peter.
Downloaded firefox, looks more promising (as in it doesn't crash) - but still no file... It just sits there with the logo in the top corner spinning. How long should it take?
Sam
Should take only a couple of seconds.
Hmm,
can I use Putty to FTP the file? I'll have a search through the boards before I ask how to FTP it. Cheers guys,
Sam
*EDIT* Cant find anything obvious on how to ftp a file back from the tivo - only how to ftp files to it.... Any links?
Use an FTP program as has been suggested in previous replies by other's. Personally I use FlashFXP but there's tons of FTP applications out there.
Hmm, downloaded flashfxp. It says that it connects to my tivo's address, but its not bring up any files in its window. Then eventually it says connection failed.
Do I have to connect on a particular port? Or put in a username at all?
This must suggest something up the creek with my tivo's setup???
Sam
Your TiVo IP address, Port 21, no username, no password and "Anonymous" checkbox ticked. That's it.
Yep - that's what I tried... It must realated to the problem Im having somewhat....
Sam
In that case it's down to four things:
1. Software network setup issue (ie settings in nic_config_tivo)
2. Faulty TiVo network card
3. Faulty network cabling (most common problem by far)
4. Faulty port in the router
Finally managed to connect to it - I just had to pull the power on my tivo as it seemed to have crashed? I did also swap ports on the router though? None the less, attached is the zipped file in question. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks again,
Sam
your problem is this:
Aug 17 16:08:55 (none) comm[156]: Uploading HTTP Header for modLog of /var/log/svclog: POST /tivo-service/mlog.cgi HTTP/1.0^M Content-Length: 8424^M ^M
Aug 17 16:11:52 (none) comm[156]: XferRqst timeout waiting to read
So, something is definately blocking the calls. What we don't know is if it's your router or the ISP.
Try this link from your PC, it's not reliable but may help.
If it shows no proxy then try this from your PC.
also on your tivo try:
wget http://131.244.9.101/tivo-service/mlog.cgi
cat mlog.cgi
You should get 'Done.' as the response to the 2nd line.
Then try:
wget http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test
cat proxy-test
Scoll down the list till you see <p class="testresult"> then look at the next line and see if it says there is a proxy.
Now just to clean up a little:
rm proxy-test
rm mlog.cgi
To delete those files.
Peter
Ok - first link from PC said "This request appears NOT to have come via a proxy.
The request appears to have originated from host 111.203.233.220.exetel.com.au which has ip address 220.233.203.111"
For the second test, my page serial number was updating.
Reponse to requested lines from tivo:
[TiVo [p0] ~]# wget http://131.244.9.101/tivo-service/mlog.cgi
--09:41:31-- http://131.244.9.101/tivo-service/mlog.cgi
=> `mlog.cgi'
Connecting to 131.244.9.101:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/plain]
[ <=> ] 6 0.00B/s
09:41:32 (0.00 GB/s) - `mlog.cgi' saved [6]
[TiVo [p0] ~]#
[TiVo [p0] ~]# cat mlog.cgi
Done.
[TiVo [p0] ~]# wget http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test
--09:42:29-- http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test
=> `proxy-test'
Resolving www.lagado.com... failed: Host not found.
Only had to remove the cgi file as the other did not download. Does this suggest anything? Should I try another router or modem?
Sam
Unfortunately it doesn't really prove anything, except the dns resolution didn't work for the last test which can happen occasionally. I suggest you try the last test a few more times.
Remind me, are you running the UK image or Philips.
Peter.
I'm running a phillips tivo with current oztivo image.
Sam
OK, your signature says "Thompson S1 with turbonet and 300gb seagate FTA STB" so I thought it might be a Thomson.
Also I might suggest re-imaging and make sure you select update the installer before imaging the drive.
Peter.
Sorry - your right! I will update my signature... Sorry for the confusion.
Sam
##EDIT##
When I select "Update from the installer cd - will I need to have access to the internet? How does it update? I only ask as my main pc uses SATA drives, so I have to do the imaging on my spare pc (with ide drives) which is not connected to the internet. Will this still allow me to do the update? I'm sorta guessing not due to the lack of operating system, but then Im not sure as to how it updates? Thanks,
Sam
Yes, you must have internet connection for the update to download.
Peter.
Can I do it over the network, or do I have to take the hardrive out again and hook it up to my pc? Just thought I'd ask before I climb behind the entertainment unit again (as I have a bung shoulder after popping it out 2 nights ago....)
Sam
You can't load the initial TiVo image over the network onto a hard disk, however if you are referring to doing just an update to an image then yes this can be done as per this page: http://minnie.tuhs.org/twiki/bin/vie...adeOzTiVoImage
Darren;
Sorry, we are talking about updating the installer before loading the image. Not updating an existing image.
Sparker;
You will need to pull the drive and attach it the same as you originally did, but the machine you attach it to needs to have an internet connection to download the updated installer files. It's alway's advisable not to install the TiVo in a difficult location till you have it running stable.
Peter.
Sorry if I missed this in a previous post, but have you taken your TiVo over to a friends house to see if it works there?
Be good to make sure that the TiVo is indeed fully operational.
Hi PjPete,
that's not a bad idea - I should take it over to a friends house to see if it works with their network/ISP provider. I bought the unit off ebay and would trust that it works from the previous owner. Besides, I tried it out before installing the image and it appeared to be working fine and had saved programs installed on the drive.
In regards to having internet access on the machine that you install the iso from, does the loader program look for this connection through a network connection or something? IE, can I hook a network cable up to my spare pc (that I do the is iso loadings from) and this will work? I guess I can try it and see what it says.
Oh, and my tivo isn't in a particularly bad position, anywhere is hard to get to with a freshly dislocated shoulder!!!
Thanks for your help, may get a chance to try the fresh update/install tonight.
Sam
Just a quick question guys, will it be obvious if the update does or does not work? I have tried it and it just flashes something very quickly on a black background screen and then shows the same screen again. Does this mean it downloaded the latest update or not? If not, why not? I presume a network setting is not correct, but how do I set it? Thanks,
Sam
Unless Peter can put me wise I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding having to update the installer CD when imaging the hard disk. I would have thought an alternative route would be to use the 1.6.2 CD as is and then invoke the update_oztivo -y command to get the updates when the hard disk is put back in the TiVo.
Surely not everyone has or is expected to have a PC connected to a network when imaging a TiVo hard disk?
I have the tivo out and connected to the computer now anyway, but am not really thinking the update feature is working. If I can do it another way, then im more than happy to try that (I am already using the 1.6.2 installer) Thanks guys,
Sam
Sam,
The only thing you will notice is version number of the installer will increment. From memory 1.22 to 1.23 or 1.23 to 1.24. The ISO should auto configure on the PC it is run on, so yes just plugging a network cable in should work.
Darren,
Apart from the menu fixes it also downloads some file updates and config changes since the ISO was released. This includes changes to emuproxyZA which may fix the problem.
If you don't pick up the changes at install you can get them by rsync later, the problem is for rsync to be sucessful you must have completed GS. This is where sam is stuck, rsync won't work as he can't complete GS.
Peter.
Thanks Peter that makes sense.
I guess it is back to square 1 for Sam. Time to take the TiVo over to the friend's house and narrow it down a little.
Sorry Sam I rarely get further into Melbourne than Dandenong. Although I guess another idea may be to send me the hard disk and I can do the initial guided setup and file updates to it if that helps any.
Hi Pete,
where abouts is the installer increment displayed? I might just presume it has worked and put the drive back in my tivo to try. Here's hoping we are onto a winner! Thanks guys,
Sam
If the time taken to initiate the update to the time it finished is less than 5 seconds then it hasn't worked. I believe you mentioned it just gives a brief flash and then returns to the main screen.
Last night I had to install a hard disk and I purposely monitored the time taken for discussion in this thread. Even on a 512K ADSL connection it took about 10 seconds and the network traffic light on the PC showed plenty of activity.
If you cannot even make a PC running the installer CD to get a successful update then it is suggesting more a network/router or ISP issue than anything else.
Ok - sounds promising (promising as in that sounds like the problem) as it does only flash something up on the screen for maybe a couple of tenths of a second. Should I try another router or is there some test I can do to see where the problem is occuring? Thanks guys,
Sam
From memory the installer version number is displayed in the border at the top of the screen.
You won't see it increment, but take a note of it before the update and look again after.
Peter
Just got this email from Exetel, do you think it will make any difference to the tivo? If I can't get this thing to work in the next week or so, I'm going to have to give up and sell it :(
Please find that the ADSL service that is active on the number 0352457***, was yesterday migrated to the new Melbourne POP. A notification was due to be sent prior to the change but due to an administrative error the notice failed to send to all customers.
The only difference to your service is that the dedicated IP address that your account was assigned (was a 220.233.*.* IP) will be changed to the new pool of IP addresses assigned to the Melbourne POP (these are a 58.96.*.* IP range.)
Changes you will need to make:
For most of you there will be no need to make any changes to your service. If your modem is set to a dynamic IP address then the Exetel authentication server will just assign you the new IP address and your service will continue to work.
For customers who have a static IP address set in their modem / router, they will need to update this to the new IP address which can be seen in your user facilities.
The change effects residential grade services only.
If you have any further questions please reply to this email and a support staff member will assist you.
Exetel apologises for any inconvenience caused.
Regards
Exetel Support
This notice only means they have changed the IP address that the ISP assigns to your ADSL service. Given you have made a post today means you have been changed over and your router has picked up this new IP address. No I don't believe it will make one iota of difference and you can confirm by telling us whether the TiVo has done anything different today compared to what it has been doing previously.
So what is your status? You have been a little quiet recently. I assume you have used this time to organise your local friend to help you out narrowing down where the exact problem may be. If you can let us know the outcome of this that will help.
Shame you may be considering the option of selling as I doubt you are the only Exetel person using a TiVo and strongly believe it is something local rather than the ISP at fault. To be clear, before the topic went off on a tangent of the image update via network you were at the point of post #63 (page 7) of testing or even post #76 (page 8) where you were going to take it to another place for testing there. Might be a good idea to pick it up from this point and continue if you have not already done so.
Note I edited your post to remove your specific phone number.
Hi Darren,
thanks for editing - I must have missed that....
Things have been a bit quiet lately because to be honest, Im pretty over it all. I've spent a good number of hours on this thing to get nothing in return. I will get motivated again, but its just frustrating me too much at the moment.
I do also agree that it must be either the router or my network setup, but Im having trouble finding someone who has broadband and has the time to help me with it. Would be really handy if someone near geelong would be willing for me to bring it over one night or weekend to have a try on their network/ISP. Anyone from here available?
Sam
OK then. Good luck with it all.
Hi Darren,
thanks mate. Do you know of any other oztivo forum members that are on this side of melbourne? You said you were on the other side of the bay yeah? Where abouts is that, Im happy to come for a drive to try it out on your setup - save me stuffing around for however many more nights not really sure what Im doing at home!!!!
Sam
Sorry but I do not keep personal info on who lives where, nor am I at liberty to divulge any information I may know. There are many people located a lot closer to you than I am, but given OzTiVo is a voluntary user based community with no official "help desk" there is no guarantee that anyone may offer their help.
If you wish my help then please send me an email via the address given on my website.
Hi Darren,
thank you - I will send you through an email and will come for a drive (if ok?) unless another member somewhat closer is willing to help me out?
I understand that this is voluntry and that there is no help-desk(!) and will try again with the "help in your state" section.
Thanks guys,
Sam
There is another test I would like to try.
This uses your PC, not the TiVo.
Download WinPcap_4_0_1.exe to any location and install it.
Then download tracetcp-0.99.4beta.zip to any location and then unzip it into your root directory (c:\).
Open a command prompt and make sure you are in the root directory (cd \), then run the following commands.
C:\tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:ftp
C:\tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:http
You will get a number of lines displayed over a period time after each command. Once complete copy all the outputs and post them here.
Peter.
Hi Peter,
thanks - will try this tonight after work. Much appreciated.
Sam
tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:ftp
ARP::whoHas: no response
tracetcp ftp.monash.edu.au:http
ARP::whoHas: no response
Does that tell you anything? Cheers,
Sam
It means your PC has no network connection.
check to see if you can browse websites, or ping ftp.monash.edu.au.
Peter.
Well I can browse websites ok, so I tried it again to see what I got. Same response though... My PC is hooked up via a wireless router to an ADSL modem if that makes any difference?
Sam
Did you try pinging ftp.monash.edu.au ?
Works fine for me atm.
Peter
Working fine here too.
There are currently three people having issues connecting.
Gley had the same trouble, he ran the test today and found a proxy.
don't know why you can't connect, wireless shouldn't make any difference.
Peter.