thanks for the ideas, but my clock doesn't seem to be warped having checked the logs.
I have however run ntpdate successfully and retried force_index30.tcl but to no avail.
1 interesting thing might be that when I force the daily call via tivoweb it all happens very quickly now, as if it isn't actually downloading anything.....anfdI am getting the nag message "you only have 6 days of guide data left".......
any more clues ?
spike