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DJC
09-05-2005, 08:17 PM
I've manufacured a relatively complete logo slice for the 02113 postcode. Source logos from various locations credits to those artists.

The slice is part of the beta emulator on orac, the port 8000 one.

To access it you'll need to run a GS against that emulator. If you have a previous logo slice added you'll need to do a ClearAndDelete .. then GS.

Te beta emulator is running the standard headends. This probably won't change for a while as I'm busy with other work.

The beta emulator receives the same daily dev slices as orac's main emulator. If you are on the dev emulator [as wanted points out] and have no logos, you can just switch in to get the logo slice.

Once you've GS'ed againt the beta emulator, you can move off it back to the main orac emulator without issue.

Slice number is 151, yes it took that many versions to get a stable slice.

If you have loaded other emulator slices like logos-67 ... stardard-110 ... canda's merged slices to bootstrap tivoweb for manual logo uploading, you'll need to clear and delete before loading this slice. They all use the same LogoGroup ServerId's.

If you have no logos and don't use an emulator, grab the slice from orac's ftp, dbload it and automatically associate logos.

Once you have GS'ed and rebooted then its a matter of going into tivoweb, and doing a one click associate as per the image below, all logos should automatically link up (the current headend doesn't have the linking id's for automatic association).

Experimental ... using myself ... interested in testers ... and better logos.


/DJC

timmy
10-05-2005, 04:47 AM
cool can you send me a copy of these logos. were these the ones shown in another thread or have u added to them. I need them for the web interface. I noticed you had put a few into the database. I could'nt view them tho so not sure whether it was you or I at fault.. probably me, hehe.

Wanted
10-05-2005, 05:11 AM
Sweet, I'm gonna try it out. I'll edit the post when I am done... or stuck.

EDIT: NICE! Works beautifully. I changed to the dev port and back using my Saturn code with no issue. I didn't need to clear all the data either as I was already on the port 80 orac emulator. You're a leg end.

deanm
10-05-2005, 07:48 AM
I have improved the quality of the logo's I originally posted quite a lot on a pixel-by-pixel basis.
Will round 'em up and post them here.

Post what channels are missing and i'll create them when i get a chance.

DJC
10-05-2005, 08:34 AM
I have improved the quality of the logo's I originally posted quite a lot on a pixel-by-pixel basis.
Will round 'em up and post them here.

Post what channels are missing and i'll create them when i get a chance.

Cheers Dean, some of them are yours originally I think, others come from other emulators, including AU/Canada ... A few I did from various images and are are frankly shocking. But none are missing.

My goal was to get an operational and working slice... which has alluded me for 151 versions ... but I'm on it now.

It should be a matter of now just updating logos versions by replacing the image and building a slice, the slice versioning should send the new images to the tivos on the beta emulator.

... look forwarding to some updates ...

DJC
10-05-2005, 08:37 AM
cool can you send me a copy of these logos. were these the ones shown in another thread or have u added to them. I need them for the web interface. I noticed you had put a few into the database. I could'nt view them tho so not sure whether it was you or I at fault.. probably me, hehe.

... the png's for the images are in the databse, uploaded via phpmyadmin, definitely should work. Originally only did a few but they are all there now.

... the goal is to generate the logo slice (as prer the headends) from the channels table ... linked to a headends config table allowing custome headends for various services and regions ...

... so it would be nice to figure the db driven logos out.

timmy
10-05-2005, 08:42 AM
ok cool i'll assume user error and try again tonite

Weird cause I used Navicat (the mysql rich client tool) to try to view them too but could'nt, tho that prog has been causing me some troubles as I mentioned..

Wanted
10-05-2005, 09:04 AM
I have improved the quality of the logo's I originally posted quite a lot on a pixel-by-pixel basis.
Will round 'em up and post them here.

Post what channels are missing and i'll create them when i get a chance.

All the ones I care about are there but if you want to be complete there are a few missing (on Saturn anyway).

14 TAB
17 DTA (Discovery Travel & Adventure)
35 Satwx (Saturn Weather)
36 TVSN (Television Shopping Network)
37 TBNSat (TBN I forget what this stands for but it's religious)
63 SCAN (Montage)
64 Choose (Saturn channel guide)
65 SBOGuide (Box Office movie guide)
66 Peek (Box Office now showing trailers)
1095 NoNag (no nag channel)

DJC
10-05-2005, 10:25 AM
14 TAB
17 DTA (Discovery Travel & Adventure)
35 Satwx (Saturn Weather)
36 TVSN (Television Shopping Network)
37 TBNSat (TBN I forget what this stands for but it's religious)
63 SCAN (Montage)
64 Choose (Saturn channel guide)
65 SBOGuide (Box Office movie guide)
66 Peek (Box Office now showing trailers)
1095 NoNag (no nag channel)

Tab/TVSN should be there (are on my tivo) ... no saturn logos in the slice ... quite right.

DJC
10-05-2005, 10:28 AM
I could'nt view them tho so not sure whether it was you or I at fault.. probably me, hehe.

Take a look at this url ...

http://orac.caffeine.co.nz/logo.php?channel=1001

Channel number change to 1002 ... 1003 ... 1004 etc ... you'll get the logos for each channel.

Here is the php code, pretty basic



<?
// Connect to orac (local host and select user only)
$db = mysql_connect('localhost', ...user..., ...pass...);
mysql_select_db('guideData', $db);
// Query the database
$out = mysql_query("SELECT logoS1 FROM channels WHERE channel_id='$channel'", $db);
if (mysql_num_rows($out) > 0) {
// Get the blob
$row = mysql_fetch_array($out);
$jpg = $row["logoS1"];
// Stream the file to the browser
header("Content-type: image/jpeg");
echo $jpg;
}
mysql_close($db)
?>

Wanted
10-05-2005, 12:23 PM
Tab/TVSN should be there (are on my tivo) ... no saturn logos in the slice ... quite right.

Well I see the icons in your posted picture but it doesn't exist on my TiVo. Anyone else set this up that previously had no icons?

deanm
10-05-2005, 02:51 PM
Attached are 'nicer' versions of TCM and Disney.

zollymonsta
10-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Tab/TVSN should be there (are on my tivo) ... no saturn logos in the slice ... quite right.

Here's a couple I've found.. Don't know what they're like though.

DJC
10-05-2005, 03:52 PM
Ok ... logos used to build the master slice are here

ftp://orac..../nz_chlogos/slice

Contrib stuff be stored here ... also postem for ease of access in the short-term

ftp://orac..../nz_chlogos/contrib

Watch your palettes ensure they match what is in slice dir ...

DJC
10-05-2005, 05:04 PM
Tab/TVSN should be there (are on my tivo) ... no saturn logos in the slice ... quite right.

Right I see what you mean... The logos are there in tivoweb but do not display on the screen.

I took the better logos posted in this thread and rolled slice 152 ... 153 ... 154 and yep no logos displayed for TAB, TVSN, Disney, TCM.

Basically, the ones I added ex Dean and ZM. I took the logs and reapplied the palletes as attached ... rolled slie 155 ... boom all there. So my best guess is that the emulator served logo slice seems rather picky in terms of image structure.

Slice 155 is up on the beta emulator, a daily call against this will get the update.

timmy
13-05-2005, 09:55 AM
Take a look at this url ...

http://orac.caffeine.co.nz/logo.php?channel=1001

Channel number change to 1002 ... 1003 ... 1004 etc ... you'll get the logos for each channel.

Here is the php code, pretty basic


ok got it. something like..

<img src="myImage.php&source=channel_ID">

the myImage.php file sets the content header and returns the data. genius..

DJC
14-05-2005, 09:09 AM
ok got it. something like.. <img src="myImage.php&source=channel_ID">
the myImage.php file sets the content header and returns the data. genius..

Yup ... nice looking logos on your site!

DJC
26-05-2005, 07:41 PM
New slice rolled with latest 'clean logo' updates ... up on the development emulator.

zollymonsta
27-05-2005, 02:10 PM
New slice rolled with latest 'clean logo' updates ... up on the development emulator.

Prolly a silly question.. but is Saturn catered for on the development emulator?

DJC
27-05-2005, 03:32 PM
Yep, postcode 2115 is there as well.

sadrake
18-08-2005, 11:09 AM
Logo's not showing

Q: since moving to the Dev emulator on 8000, DJC you mentioned that I should now have the logo's,

Would these replace the yellow dots in the record listing?? or where in the Tivo should I see them.

P.S. I haven't run GS yet if thats the trick to get them working... :confused:

DJC
18-08-2005, 11:20 AM
You will have to go into the web interface of tivo and click on automatically associate logos. (we haven't given them indicies yet)

Be interesting to post up a new thread here in the dev forum on... "Changing to the dev emulator by changing IP..." and post any oddities you find as a result of the transition.

Most of us have at least done a clear and delete ... some a full GS.

sadrake
19-08-2005, 06:05 AM
I have the logos now, initialy they the web interface reported no logos found, This was because I had not rebooted since downloading the slice from the dev emulator, after a reboot they appeared and I was able to associate them with the channels.

I think everything is done now on the switch over, I will put together a guide of what I found and what the fixes were.

DJC
19-08-2005, 07:23 AM
Excellent will be good to have that post.

Don't forget there is a rough cut of a web interface for augmenting show data, stars ratings and replacing those annoying 'No information' empty descriptions.

http://orac.caffeine.co.nz/shows

Also a work in progress (timmy, now handed over to maddog)

http://orac.caffeine.co.nz/epg

zollymonsta
19-08-2005, 02:53 PM
Are we all able to edit show info on the /shows page? Will this actually affect slices that are created?

DJC
19-08-2005, 03:43 PM
yes and yes.

[Example ... check out TV3, 8am, programme "Ahhh! monsters"]

BruceC
24-08-2005, 06:04 PM
A How To Guide on changing from Ed's emulator to Dev Emulator and also getting logo's would be awesome.

I for one have been keeping an eye on the Dev Forum but am unsure exactly how to change over. I know how to change IP address but am confused as to whether I need to back up season passes and clear out guide data and run GS etc...

I did ask the other week if Dev Emulator would give me data with less "gaps" and was told no - but during some reading tonight in the forums it sounds like it would be more complete data.

Bruce

DJC
25-08-2005, 12:33 PM
I did ask the other week if Dev Emulator would give me data with less "gaps" and was told no - but during some reading tonight in the forums it sounds like it would be more complete data.


Still say, the data is sourced from the same place. Perhaps, the processing mechanisms to create slices might be more robust in the dev system. Thats what we are trying to test.

Suggest you pop over hand have a try.

Of course the dev slices can be augmented by the community, which helps to eliminate the 'No information' entries.

BruceC
26-08-2005, 04:11 AM
Well, after getting sick of seeing "To Be Announced" I changed over last night to the Dev Emulator Port 8000 and all went smoothly and I now have what looks like great data. And after a restart this morning and Automatically associating them I have Logo's which is a nice addition.

For anyone's info. My to do list was:

1) Backup Season Passes
2) Clear Guide Data (didn't expect it to take more than a few seconds but be aware that it does;-)
3) Change IP address to Dev emulator port 8000 (ok for me as I had never manually loaded Logo's previously)
4) Made Daily call via TicoWeb and got large download and data
5) Forced Index
6) Restored season passes (FYI - I have very few and after restore it didn't look like it was going to doing anything as To Do list was empty except for my repeating Manual recordings so I took 5 mins to delete and redo my few season passes and then they appeared in To Do List)
7) Restarted Tivo (pulled power plug because this has previously fixed clock problems on my Tivo - not that I was havingany at this point but I had read about people getting them during this changeover)
8) Via TivoWeb I "Automatically Associated Logos"
ALL IS GOOD !

My one question though is:

I have read about having to now put up with messages about lack of data. Is that true. I had them during my changeover obviously due to cleaning out all guide data but now Tivo says it has data to 7 Sept and no new messages overnight so maybe I won't see them again.

If I do, can you still load that C4 sometime in 2011 slice to your Tivo even when running of Dev Emulator?

Cheers Bruce
(with, touchwood, what seems like awesome Guide Data and a happy changed over Tivo)

tonys
26-08-2005, 05:42 AM
I assume this sequence will work for changing from Ed's emulator to orac?
Just delete guide data, no need to run a complete GS?

DJC
26-08-2005, 07:43 AM
I have read about having to now put up with messages about lack of data. Is that true. I had them during my changeover obviously due to cleaning out all guide data but now Tivo says it has data to 7 Sept and no new messages overnight so maybe I won't see them again.

If I do, can you still load that C4 sometime in 2011 slice to your Tivo even when running of Dev Emulator?


If you get messages, then I've got a tech problem... it should not occur on the dev system as it stands. I've seen it on occasion but generally I don't get them. I'm on the orac:8000 system.

You can still load the C4 slice, its independent of the emulator.

DJC
26-08-2005, 07:44 AM
I assume this sequence will work for changing from Ed's emulator to orac?
Just delete guide data, no need to run a complete GS?

Yes.

But: Season passes need to be redone.

DJC
26-08-2005, 08:31 AM
(with, touchwood, what seems like awesome Guide Data and a happy changed over Tivo)

Thanks to jaidev for the data.

BruceC
26-08-2005, 11:06 AM
Yip - that's what I was doing.
I changed from Ed's Emulator to Developer Emulator port 8000.

I have been told today though that now I have logo's etc it would be best if I changed back to Dev port 80 in order to use a less experimental Emulator.

So I will change port number tonight - I am told that's all I need to do - no clearing of data is needed. Yay!

Bruce

MrGadget
12-12-2005, 05:54 AM
So, does anyone have a standalone logo/s for Food TV & Playhouse Disney ?

Cheers
Neil

deanm
13-12-2005, 09:57 AM
Disney Playhouse attached...

enjoy.

MrGadget
14-12-2005, 05:24 AM
Brilliant - thanks...
Now just the Food logo to go :-)

thomson
30-01-2006, 07:32 PM
Have been trying to setup a system for a friend who has Saturn using the Orac emulators (both 80 and 8000) and am only able to get it working using 02113/002 (Sky). When I try 02115/002 it is unable to find any lineups.

System is currently up and running against the Sky data but it would be nice to get it setup against Saturn.

Has anyone had recent trouble with this?

PS: I do understand that you must clear the database (clear-and-delete-everything) to switch between lineups, but only tried Sky after we were unable to get Saturn working against any of the emulators. Will get them to try again tonight and see if we have more luck. We were initially using Orac/80 then switched to Orac/8000 and even tried the original emulator (which does not respond).

Update: The following night the person was eventually (clear-and-delete and a number of reboots) able to successfully dial up against the Orac/8000 emulator using 02115/002, so he is happy :)

zollymonsta
31-01-2006, 06:13 AM
Yes I had the same trouble when trying to test 02115.
It thinks the lineup does not exist. Had to revert back to the plain Saturn lineup.

BTW Sky one is similar, but not accurate as to what is on Saturn Digital.

Wanted
31-01-2006, 09:17 AM
Saturn Digital or Analog? I did a fresh setup last Thursday on a Analog box after a complete reset (02115, 002, 8000) and got all the logo's, lineup etc. I did it on 80 too but did it again on 8000 to get logos. I have a General Instrument box.

DJC
31-01-2006, 09:54 AM
OK, thanks for the info, I'll have to have a look into these saturn headends.

To get logos setup 02115 or port 80 as usual. Change to port 8000 and dial against that emulator, you'll get the logo slice. Just don't load any logos manually and things will be ok on port 8000

zollymonsta
01-02-2006, 05:56 PM
Saturn Digital or Analog? I did a fresh setup last Thursday on a Analog box after a complete reset (02115, 002, 8000) and got all the logo's, lineup etc. I did it on 80 too but did it again on 8000 to get logos. I have a General Instrument box.

Saturn Analog works fine. Saturn Digital doesn't seem to show up during the setup call.

deanm
20-07-2006, 09:58 AM
Launching August 18, MTV will be a non-stop 24 hour entertainment channel combining MTV favourites as well as home grown locally produced shows, music and talent. MTV NZ will look, sound and feel like your own backyard.

DJC
22-07-2006, 07:04 AM
Will shove em into the slice this weekend. How'd you go with those sport logo refinements? could update them at the same time if you had them.

deanm
24-07-2006, 06:35 AM
working on 'em now.. minor revisions to all actually.. palette and alignment adjustments.. mainly for now showing.. going is slow as i have to reboot the tivo each time.. (which can be life-threatening with a tivo mad family)

deanm
14-08-2006, 12:47 PM
revised now showing.. Tv2, Sport 1, 2 & 3

deanm
14-08-2006, 12:49 PM
Revised.. Rialto and Prime

deanm
14-08-2006, 01:10 PM
Revised.. Food TV, Nickelodeon and Rugby Channnel

DJC
14-08-2006, 08:18 PM
Nice work...

I've bound the changes up into the logo slice v220, tested and pushed them into 'current emulator' on 8000.

To get a clean build I had to re-insert the palettes that I used for the slice previously (as attached) and save the resulting files with the settings shown. Using ifranview for this. The slicable files are around 4.5-4.6k.

deanm
15-08-2006, 07:41 AM
wow! that was quick.. :cool:

I'm concentrating on the 'now showing' as they're the one's you have to look at the most.

Attached is a revised Maori Television and BBC World

DJC
15-08-2006, 05:00 PM
Those lastest two logos were wrapped into today's slice and sent out earlier in the day.

deanm
16-08-2006, 07:44 AM
noticed the addition of Triangle television to the listings..
attached are the first draft of that logo(s).
also a revised MTV.. last one was hideous..

thanks for the quick inclusion in the slice btw, when i'm happy with the complete set i'll bundle up the PSDs (I have 'nice' versions suitable for the web interface if required)

DJC
16-08-2006, 04:16 PM
Updated and rolled out, also added some of the final saturn logos and a couple of other regional TV stations while I was at it.

There is something up with the triangle s1, see attached. I think the transparency needs to be the first index. See attached.

Anyway, since your are using photoshop, I've included my photoshop tivo ACT's in the attached zip.