missig guide data?

[TerminalAddict]

are we having a problem ?? :)

I've got no guide data for channel 20 or TV One

[SeanOffShotgun]

Shouldn't you post this message in one of the other "no guide data" threads?
If we have the forum littered with "no guide data" threads we'll have difficulty seeing anything else.

Yes, we (they?) have another guide data problem.

[jaidev]

TV One is fine,
although sky has changed something for Sky Movies 1, working on it.. maybe something to do with WS mode since Jan 1, but doubt it

[SeanOffShotgun]

The emulator is stuffed - I get no data from it though the process says it's successful.
Until it is fixed you'll have to manually load your guide data like this:

wget http://216.58.174.222/tjvinfo/nztivo.slice
dbload30.tcl nztivo.slice

[jaidev]

The emulator is stuffed - I get no data from it though the process says it's successful.



A bit more info please?, When you did a daily emulator call you received no guide data at all?, Did your tivo show it was loading data i.e. 10% done..?
Did your tivo have any data at all before you did this? Maybe it's already made a call and processed the slice beforehand? You can't load it twice.

[SeanOffShotgun]

A bit more info please?, When you did a daily emulator call you received no guide data at all?, Did your tivo show it was loading data i.e. 10% done..?

No, I didn't get the 10%, 20%, ... normal messages.


Did your tivo have any data at all before you did this? Maybe it's already made a call and processed the slice beforehand? You can't load it twice.

Data that I did have ran out at about midday yesterday. So if I had loaded a slice previously it had nothing in it.

So my conclusion was that the emulator site has old data in it because I was able to manually load data up until the 11th Jan from Timmy's site. I last tried the emulator at around 8AM this morning (and failed) then loaded from Timmy's site right after.

Thanks.

[ehintz]

Hmmm... Looks like the timezone bug may have bit us after all (the Tivos and the emulator are in different timezones, so when the tivos connect versus when the emulator thinks they connect can create a situation where the Tivo thinks it already has a slice because of the date). I just made a quick lil' hack that should resolve it.

That being said, something else may be at play here, 'cause I got bit by the bug (most recent slice wasn't downloading), but I wasn't out of data. Also, the most recent slice still doesn't appear to have data for channel 20, so lack of same doesn't look like a usable troubleshooting tool.

Perhaps Sean managed to trip the bug a couple times in a row? Possible I suppose.

[jaidev]

Also, the most recent slice still doesn't appear to have data for channel 20..


Yes Sky Movies 1 (Channel 20) doesn't have guide data, this is still an issue I'm looking into it, seems to be around the same time Sky changed Movies 1 to also show wide screen movies, they may have changed some parameters of the station.

[Rabsoft]

Has there been any update to the missing data ?

[jaidev]

No fix yet, I discovered a major bug in one of the supporting programs thats used with the guide creation process. The program is being fixed, however the fixed program will break the p a r s e r, which will need fixing too. This is because of the change Sky has made to Sky Movies 1 ONLY.

Tim is coming back to NZ in the first week of Feb he will fix the p a r s e r then. And will also get back into pushing the community guide data effort.

I am currently busy with my up coming wedding, however procedures are underway to fix this issue.
It's not as major as it sounds, since guide data for the other 60 stations is still fine.
The good news is that we will also have guide data for all the pay per view movies.

[Rabsoft]

Just as a thought, do you require and help with the guide data, I am more than willing to have a look at how it is put together and see if there is any way that I can help. even maybe spread the load.

[jaidev]

No not with the current way it is made. But the community guide data effort requires help hence the reason for it's existence a community effort. See here (http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=393)

[thomson]

For Your Information
The following is a report showing the Gaps in the existing EPG slice (v.635).

The negative numbers as the result of a show being scheduled to start before the previous one has finished. This information may be useful to anyone building EPG collectors.



Huge Duration 180300 in nztivo.slice (Station 7998011, {Fa Premiership - Live})
GAP: Station TV1 Fri 14 Jan 01:00 - 00:40 (-20 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 16 Jan 07:30 - 10:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 16 Jan 17:30 - 19:00 (1 hour, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 16 Jan 23:00 - 02:45 (3 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 15 Jan 06:00 - 07:00 (1 hour)
GAP: Station 7998004 Fri 14 Jan 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998004 Sat 15 Jan 01:00 - 04:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998004 Sat 15 Jan 17:30 - 19:30 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998004 Sun 16 Jan 11:30 - 13:00 (1 hour, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Sun 16 Jan 07:30 - 10:15 (2 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station Prime Sat 15 Jan 06:00 - 10:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998007 Tue 18 Jan 01:30 - 05:30 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998008 Sat 15 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998008 Tue 18 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998010 Fri 14 Jan 08:55 - 08:30 (-25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Fri 14 Jan 09:00 - 08:55 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Fri 14 Jan 11:00 - 09:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Fri 14 Jan 11:30 - 11:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Sat 15 Jan 13:00 - 09:30 (-210 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Sat 15 Jan 13:05 - 13:00 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Sun 16 Jan 20:00 - 22:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998010 Tue 18 Jan 00:00 - 01:00 (1 hour)
GAP: Station 7998011 Fri 14 Jan 03:30 - 02:00 (-90 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Fri 14 Jan 04:00 - 03:30 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Fri 14 Jan 14:00 - 12:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Sun 16 Jan 06:10 - 03:55 (-135 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Mon 17 Jan 06:00 - 06:10 (-1656 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Mon 17 Jan 05:00 - 07:05 (2 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Mon 17 Jan 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 10:00 - 09:00 (-60 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 12:00 - 10:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 14:30 - 12:00 (-150 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 15:00 - 14:30 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 15:30 - 15:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 16:00 - 15:30 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 18:00 - 16:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 19:30 - 18:00 (-90 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Fri 14 Jan 21:30 - 19:30 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Fri 14 Jan 08:55 - 08:30 (-25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Fri 14 Jan 09:00 - 08:55 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Fri 14 Jan 11:00 - 09:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Fri 14 Jan 11:30 - 11:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sat 15 Jan 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sun 16 Jan 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sun 16 Jan 22:00 - 10:30 (12 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Tue 18 Jan 06:00 - 10:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998015 Sat 15 Jan 05:00 - 08:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Fri 14 Jan 04:25 - 08:05 (3 hours, 40 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998024 Sat 15 Jan 02:25 - 04:25 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Sun 16 Jan 20:30 - 22:30 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Mon 17 Jan 10:40 - 16:45 (6 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998030 Sun 16 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998030 Sun 16 Jan 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998040 Fri 14 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998040 Mon 17 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Sat 15 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Mon 17 Jan 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998050 Sat 15 Jan 10:30 - 13:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998051 Sun 16 Jan 19:00 - 22:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998052 Sun 16 Jan 16:30 - 19:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998052 Mon 17 Jan 13:30 - 16:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Mon 17 Jan 00:30 - 01:30 (1 hour)
GAP: Station 7998054 Fri 14 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Sat 15 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Sun 16 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Mon 17 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Tue 18 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Fri 14 Jan 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998056 Fri 14 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Sat 15 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Sun 16 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998056 Tue 18 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998059 Sun 16 Jan 19:25 - 22:50 (3 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 14 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 14 Jan 08:59 - 09:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 14 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 15 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 15 Jan 08:59 - 09:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 15 Jan 13:14 - 13:15 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 15 Jan 15:42 - 15:45 (3 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 15 Jan 22:42 - 22:45 (3 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sun 16 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sun 16 Jan 04:38 - 04:40 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 04:59 - 05:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 05:54 - 05:55 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Tue 18 Jan 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Tue 18 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998082 Fri 14 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Fri 14 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 15 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 15 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 15 Jan 19:00 - 23:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sun 16 Jan 04:00 - 07:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sun 16 Jan 17:00 - 19:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Mon 17 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sat 15 Jan 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sun 16 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sun 16 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Fri 14 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998090 Fri 14 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998099 Sun 16 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998099 Sun 16 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7999001 Fri 14 Jan 01:00 - 00:40 (-20 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Fri 14 Jan 06:00 - 01:00 (-300 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Sun 16 Jan 07:30 - 10:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7999002 Sun 16 Jan 17:30 - 19:00 (1 hour, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999002 Sun 16 Jan 23:00 - 02:45 (3 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999003 Sat 15 Jan 06:00 - 07:00 (1 hour)

[timmy]

i'll fix this when i get back, thanks for that. Currently doesn't check for overlaping start/end times on same channel/day, actually i'm surprised this is happening given source of data... dunno. something quirky going on


TiM

[jaidev]

thats an unusual large amount of gaps. Building new slice now..

[thomson]

thats an unusual large amount of gaps. Building new slice now..

The following is a report showing the Gaps in the existing EPG slice (v.638).

The negative numbers as the result of a show being scheduled to start before the previous one has finished. I have had a quick look at the slice and many of these are the result of duplicate Program entries (which have different descriptions) starting at the same time, but with different durations. I am guessing this is what Tim is having a look at when he gets back.

This information may be useful to anyone building EPG collectors.



GAP: Station TV1 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV1 Tue 18 Jan 00:30 - 00:15 (-15 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Tue 18 Jan 16:05 - 19:00 (2 hours, 55 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Wed 19 Jan 00:30 - 00:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Wed 19 Jan 19:00 - 23:15 (4 hours, 15 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Wed 19 Jan 01:40 - 04:40 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Wed 19 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Fri 21 Jan 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)

GAP: Station 7998004 Wed 19 Jan 10:00 - 16:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998004 Wed 19 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998007 Tue 18 Jan 01:30 - 05:30 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998008 Tue 18 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 02:30 - 02:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 02:55 - 02:30 (-25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 04:55 - 02:55 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 05:00 - 04:55 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 06:55 - 05:00 (-115 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 07:00 - 06:55 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 09:00 - 07:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 09:00 (-60 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Mon 17 Jan 21:30 - 13:00 (-510 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Tue 18 Jan 00:00 - 01:00 (1 hour)
GAP: Station 7998010 Fri 21 Jan 22:30 - 01:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998011 Mon 17 Jan 05:00 - 07:05 (2 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998012 Tue 18 Jan 06:00 - 03:00 (-1846 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 02:55 - 00:00 (-175 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 04:55 - 02:55 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 05:00 - 04:55 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 09:00 - 05:00 (-240 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 09:00 (-60 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 10:30 - 10:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 18:00 - 16:00 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 20:05 - 18:00 (-125 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 21:30 - 20:05 (-85 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 23:30 - 21:30 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Mon 17 Jan 23:35 - 23:30 (-5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Tue 18 Jan 02:00 - 23:35 (-371 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Wed 19 Jan 08:30 - 08:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Wed 19 Jan 10:30 - 08:30 (-120 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Wed 19 Jan 10:45 - 10:30 (-15 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998013 Wed 19 Jan 11:00 - 10:45 (-15 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Tue 18 Jan 06:00 - 10:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Wed 19 Jan 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Thu 20 Jan 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Fri 21 Jan 01:00 - 10:30 (9 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Fri 21 Jan 20:00 - 10:30 (14 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998015 Thu 20 Jan 08:00 - 10:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998015 Fri 21 Jan 20:00 - 23:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Mon 17 Jan 10:40 - 16:45 (6 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998024 Thu 20 Jan 01:25 - 04:35 (3 hours, 10 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998030 Thu 20 Jan 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998040 Mon 17 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998040 Wed 19 Jan 16:00 - 20:05 (4 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998040 Fri 21 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998041 Thu 20 Jan 04:00 - 07:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998041 Sat 22 Jan 04:00 - 07:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Mon 17 Jan 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Thu 20 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Fri 21 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998050 Wed 19 Jan 19:30 - 22:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998051 Thu 20 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998052 Mon 17 Jan 13:30 - 16:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Fri 21 Jan 01:30 - 04:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Mon 17 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Tue 18 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Wed 19 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Thu 20 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Fri 21 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Sat 22 Jan 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Tue 18 Jan 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Wed 19 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998056 Tue 18 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Wed 19 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Thu 20 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Fri 21 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Sat 22 Jan 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998059 Tue 18 Jan 17:30 - 19:10 (1 hour, 40 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 04:59 - 05:00 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 05:54 - 05:55 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 17 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Tue 18 Jan 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Tue 18 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Tue 18 Jan 23:56 - 00:00 (4 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Wed 19 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Wed 19 Jan 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Wed 19 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Wed 19 Jan 23:56 - 00:00 (4 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Thu 20 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Thu 20 Jan 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Thu 20 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Thu 20 Jan 23:56 - 00:00 (4 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 21 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 21 Jan 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 21 Jan 10:58 - 11:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 22 Jan 01:58 - 02:00 (2 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 22 Jan 08:59 - 09:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998082 Mon 17 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Mon 17 Jan 07:30 - 13:00 (5 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998082 Tue 18 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Tue 18 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Wed 19 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Wed 19 Jan 07:00 - 13:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Thu 20 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Thu 20 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Fri 21 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Fri 21 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 22 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 22 Jan 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Mon 17 Jan 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Mon 17 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Tue 18 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Wed 19 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Thu 20 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Fri 21 Jan 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Mon 17 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Tue 18 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Wed 19 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Thu 20 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Fri 21 Jan 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998090 Fri 21 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998099 Fri 21 Jan 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7999001 Mon 17 Jan 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7999001 Tue 18 Jan 00:30 - 00:15 (-15 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Tue 18 Jan 06:00 - 00:30 (-330 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Tue 18 Jan 16:05 - 19:00 (2 hours, 55 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Wed 19 Jan 00:30 - 00:00 (-30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999001 Wed 19 Jan 06:00 - 00:30 (-330 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999003 Wed 19 Jan 19:00 - 23:15 (4 hours, 15 minutes)

[TerminalAddict]

hey people.

Has there been any progress with sky movies 1 ???

[jaidev]

Has there been any progress with sky movies 1 ???

Should be soon, I'm back now..

[thomson]

The following is a report of some Gaps that appear in the existing EPG slice (v.654). This information may be useful to anyone tuning EPG collectors.


GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Feb 10:00 - 13:05 (3 hours, 5 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Fri 18 Feb 13:30 - 16:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 19 Feb 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Fri 18 Feb 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Thu 17 Feb 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station C4 Sun 20 Feb 10:00 - 15:00 (5 hours)

[thomson]

The attached TivoWeb module is a very cut down version of an old module by the same name that use to be available in the TivoCommunity forum. It can be used to get an overview of the "health" of the guide data for all channels (essentially a quick attempt at migrating the perl validate script over to TivoWeb). It can also be used to find orphaned season passes.

[thomson]

The following is a report of some Gaps that appear in the existing EPG slice (v.662). This information may be useful to anyone tuning EPG collectors.



GAP: Station TV2 Wed 2 Mar 19:00 - 22:25 (3 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Fri 4 Mar 02:25 - 04:10 (1 hour, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sat 5 Mar 01:35 - 06:00 (4 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 6 Mar 14:00 - 16:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Wed 2 Mar 13:00 - 16:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Thu 3 Mar 19:00 - 22:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 5 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Wed 2 Mar 22:30 - 01:40 (3 hours, 10 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Thu 3 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Fri 4 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
WRN: Station Sky1 Mon 7 Mar 10:25 - {Will And Grace} (19 hours, 35 minutes)
GAP: Station C4 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 15:00 (5 hours)

[timmy]

some gaps or all gaps? hehe

I'll hopefully getting around to this issue this weekend. lol, better late than never eh... curse my shonky coding :eek: sorry folks :(

[thomson]

some gaps or all gaps?

I actually only care about the FTA stuff :).

The slice generator (http://www.forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?p=2378#post2378) I use takes the slice from your site, removes all channels other than FTA(+Sky1/SkyMovies), and replicates the data so that I have three weeks worth of EPG.

If it helps, here are the gaps for all the channels in the original slice:


GAP: Station TV2 Wed 2 Mar 19:00 - 22:25 (3 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Fri 4 Mar 02:25 - 04:10 (1 hour, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sat 5 Mar 01:35 - 06:00 (4 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 6 Mar 14:00 - 16:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Wed 2 Mar 13:00 - 16:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Thu 3 Mar 19:00 - 22:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 5 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998004 Fri 4 Mar 04:30 - 07:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Wed 2 Mar 22:30 - 01:40 (3 hours, 10 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Thu 3 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Fri 4 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998007 Wed 2 Mar 22:30 - 01:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998008 Thu 3 Mar 01:00 - 04:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998008 Fri 4 Mar 01:00 - 04:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998008 Sat 5 Mar 01:00 - 04:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998008 Sat 5 Mar 16:00 - 22:30 (6 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998008 Sun 6 Mar 22:30 - 01:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998010 Sun 6 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998012 Sat 5 Mar 14:00 - 17:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998013 Thu 3 Mar 17:00 - 19:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998014 Thu 3 Mar 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Fri 4 Mar 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sat 5 Mar 00:00 - 09:30 (9 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sat 5 Mar 10:30 - 17:00 (6 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sun 6 Mar 00:00 - 10:30 (10 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998014 Sun 6 Mar 22:00 - 10:30 (12 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998015 Fri 4 Mar 16:00 - 19:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998015 Mon 7 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Thu 3 Mar 22:30 - 02:15 (3 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998024 Fri 4 Mar 04:30 - 08:15 (3 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998024 Sat 5 Mar 20:30 - 22:30 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998024 Mon 7 Mar 02:40 - 04:40 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998030 Thu 3 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998030 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998030 Sun 6 Mar 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station C4 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 15:00 (5 hours)
GAP: Station 7998033 Wed 2 Mar 22:00 - 04:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998040 Fri 4 Mar 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Wed 2 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Thu 3 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998042 Sat 5 Mar 10:00 - 16:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998051 Thu 3 Mar 01:30 - 04:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998051 Thu 3 Mar 10:00 - 16:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998051 Fri 4 Mar 01:30 - 07:00 (5 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998053 Wed 2 Mar 16:30 - 19:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Fri 4 Mar 16:30 - 19:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Fri 4 Mar 22:30 - 01:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Sun 6 Mar 16:30 - 19:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998053 Mon 7 Mar 01:30 - 04:30 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Thu 3 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Fri 4 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Fri 4 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Sat 5 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Sun 6 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998054 Mon 7 Mar 04:00 - 08:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Wed 2 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Wed 2 Mar 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Thu 3 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998055 Fri 4 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998056 Thu 3 Mar 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Fri 4 Mar 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Sat 5 Mar 04:00 - 08:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998056 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998080 Thu 3 Mar 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Fri 4 Mar 08:59 - 09:15 (16 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 5 Mar 08:59 - 09:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sat 5 Mar 13:14 - 13:15 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998080 Sun 6 Mar 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 7 Mar 04:59 - 05:10 (11 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998080 Mon 7 Mar 05:54 - 05:55 (1 minute)
GAP: Station 7998082 Thu 3 Mar 04:00 - 07:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Fri 4 Mar 04:00 - 07:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 5 Mar 04:00 - 07:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sat 5 Mar 19:00 - 23:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Sun 6 Mar 17:00 - 19:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7998082 Mon 7 Mar 01:00 - 04:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Wed 2 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Thu 3 Mar 10:00 - 16:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Thu 3 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Fri 4 Mar 10:00 - 16:00 (6 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Fri 4 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sat 5 Mar 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 13:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998083 Sun 6 Mar 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Wed 2 Mar 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998086 Sat 5 Mar 22:00 - 02:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station 7998090 Fri 4 Mar 07:00 - 11:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998090 Mon 7 Mar 07:00 - 11:30 (4 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998099 Sat 5 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7998099 Sat 5 Mar 19:00 - 22:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station 7999002 Wed 2 Mar 19:00 - 22:25 (3 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999002 Fri 4 Mar 02:25 - 04:10 (1 hour, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999002 Sat 5 Mar 01:35 - 06:00 (4 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999002 Sun 6 Mar 14:00 - 16:00 (2 hours)
GAP: Station 7999003 Wed 2 Mar 13:00 - 16:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999003 Thu 3 Mar 19:00 - 22:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999003 Sat 5 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station 7999004 Sun 6 Mar 10:00 - 15:00 (5 hours)

[thomson]

FYI: The following are the gaps for TV1,TV2,TV3,C4,Prime,Sky1&SkyMovies in the latest slice (version 665).



GAP: Station TV2 Wed 9 Mar 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Fri 11 Mar 03:00 - 04:40 (1 hour, 40 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 13 Mar 16:00 - 19:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Wed 9 Mar 22:30 - 01:40 (3 hours, 10 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Fri 11 Mar 13:00 - 16:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 12 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sun 13 Mar 10:15 - 13:00 (2 hours, 45 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Thu 10 Mar 01:40 - 04:40 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Thu 10 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Fri 11 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Sky1 Sat 12 Mar 16:30 - 19:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station Sky1 Sun 13 Mar 04:10 - 07:30 (3 hours, 20 minutes)
GAP: Station Movies Thu 10 Mar 02:15 - 04:50 (2 hours, 35 minutes)
GAP: Station C4 Sun 13 Mar 10:00 - 15:00 (5 hours)

[timmy]

cool as i think i've fixed this in the new version. Actually it was fixed in old version too but I commented it out cause I thought it was causing trouble and forgot to uncomment it. doh doh doh. Anyway reverted back to a database design now anyway which makes it is easier to inspect the data.

Anyway, keep this gap announcements coming as we'll most likely be using the new p a r s e r next week and i'll be keen to ensure this issue is corrected once and for all.

cheers,

TiM

[Wanted]

Did anyone else run out of TV1 and TV2 data at around 11pm last night? I have other channels up to Saturday but channel 1 and 2 have none.

[MrGadget]

Did anyone else run out of TV1 and TV2 data at around 11pm last night? I have other channels up to Saturday but channel 1 and 2 have none.


Yes - mine did too. I thought it was just me as I have had a few problems so tried to manually download the slice at http://216.58.174.222/tjvinfo/nztivo.slice
but this isn't working which in itself is odd... (EDIT - This is a net issue at my end... DSL wont get the file, but dial up will)

[stuge]

Here too. And I only use the FTA channels. ARG!

Thompson's idea (above (http://forums.oztivo.net/showpost.php?p=3018&postcount=23)) of creating predicted guide data sounds very attractive right about now. Note to self: have a go at installing it tonight.

[slangnz]

Did anyone else run out of TV1 and TV2 data at around 11pm last night? I have other channels up to Saturday but channel 1 and 2 have none.

Mine has as well. Not sure what happened, and foolishly noticed a while ago and thought that it would come right.

Have to resort to old technology to check on channel 1 and 2....

Does anyone have any ideas what's happened here?

[timmy]

i'm just about done (final bit of testing) on an updated p a r s e r.
This will included predicted data, I have no idea how this will affect Thompson's predicted guide data step if he continues to use it.

just warning ya,

stay tuned,

TiM

[rapier]

Did anyone else run out of TV1 and TV2 data at around 11pm last night? I have other channels up to Saturday but channel 1 and 2 have none.

Yeah, my TV1 & TV2 has got nothing in it. Anyone know what has happened? :(

[jaidev]

Yeah, my TV1 & TV2 has got nothing in it. Anyone know what has happened? :(


Yeah TVNZ happened. Fixed now in latest slice..

[thomson]

I'm just about done (final bit of testing) on an updated par ser.
This will included predicted data, I have no idea how this will affect Thompson's predicted guide data step if he continues to use it.

Thanks for the warning, but any predicted data would be more than welcome by anyone with a TiVo :) I am guessing you have renumbered the StationDay's so that predicted data can be updated by future slices? This post (http://www.forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?p=2378#post2378) has a small writeup on the reason for it. Of course the current sequential scheme would also work if there was a database/file held somewhere that mapped the sequence numbers to a Station+Day. You just need to be able to update existing (predicted) entries already existing in the database.

[timmy]

umm no. ur the slice expert dude...

i'm working on the guide data just using some basic SQL to pull forward data where it doesn't exist but has show up the last two weeks.

cool?

TiM

[thomson]

I'm working on the guide data just using some basic SQL to pull forward data where it doesn't exist but has show up the last two weeks.

Hmm... an example of the problem you may encounter is as follows... if you predict information for TV2 next Wednesday and give the StationDay a ServerId of 1234500... then a few days later when you get the real schedule for that day and you then give the StationDay a differnet ServerId then there is likely to be two schedules in the database for TV2 for Wednesday - and I have no idea which would be used...

The trick is to use a number which can be predicted (such as ChannelId+DayNum) so that when it comes time to update it you simply overwrite it (using a later version number).

The other thing to watch is that you probably want to alter the ProgramId for the predicted shows otherwise they will not be recorded as they will be the same as the previous weeks Id, and TiVo will not record the same programme twice within a 28 day period.

[thomson]

GAP: Station TV1 Fri 18 Mar 16:05 - 19:00 (2 hours, 55 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Mar 01:35 - 01:00 (-35 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Mar 02:10 - 01:35 (-35 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Mar 02:00 - 02:10 (10 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Mar 02:00 - 06:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 20 Mar 08:00 - 12:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV1 Mon 21 Mar 06:00 - 09:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Fri 18 Mar 22:00 - 01:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Sat 19 Mar 07:00 - 10:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 20 Mar 01:20 - 01:00 (-20 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 20 Mar 02:40 - 01:20 (-140 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Sun 20 Mar 02:00 - 06:00 (4 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Mon 21 Mar 18:00 - 21:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 19 Mar 07:00 - 10:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Sat 19 Mar 13:00 - 16:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Sun 20 Mar 05:30 - 05:30 (-60 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Mon 21 Mar 15:00 - 18:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Sun 20 Mar 02:00 - 02:00 (-60 minutes)
GAP: Station Prime Mon 21 Mar 21:45 - 00:20 (2 hours, 35 minutes)
GAP: Station C4 Sun 20 Mar 04:00 - 04:00 (-60 minutes)

[thomson]

The attached image is the output from the GDchecker TivoWeb module (http://www.forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?p=3005#post3005).



GAP: Station TV1 Fri 25 Mar 13:25 - 15:40 (2 hours, 15 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Mon 21 Mar 18:00 - 21:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Mon 21 Mar 15:00 - 18:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Thu 24 Mar 15:00 - 18:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Fri 25 Mar 06:00 - 09:10 (3 hours, 10 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Fri 25 Mar 21:15 - 00:40 (3 hours, 25 minutes)
GAP: Station Prime Mon 21 Mar 21:45 - 00:20 (2 hours, 35 minutes)
GAP: Station C4 Fri 25 Mar 21:00 - 01:00 (4 hours)

[thomson]

GAP: Station TV1 Thu 7 Apr 03:30 - 06:00 (2 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Thu 7 Apr 15:05 - 18:00 (2 hours, 55 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Fri 8 Apr 00:40 - 03:00 (2 hours, 20 minutes)
GAP: Station TV1 Sat 9 Apr 03:00 - 06:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV1 Sun 10 Apr 09:00 - 12:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV1 Mon 11 Apr 06:00 - 09:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Thu 7 Apr 09:10 - 12:00 (2 hours, 50 minutes)
GAP: Station TV2 Thu 7 Apr 15:30 - 15:31 (1 minute)
GAP: Station TV2 Mon 11 Apr 01:25 - 03:25 (2 hours)
GAP: Station TV2 Mon 11 Apr 12:00 - 15:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station TV3 Sun 10 Apr 18:00 - 21:30 (3 hours, 30 minutes)
GAP: Station TV3 Mon 11 Apr 06:00 - 09:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Wed 6 Apr 15:00 - 18:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Thu 7 Apr 15:00 - 18:00 (3 hours)
GAP: Station Prime Fri 8 Apr 18:00 - 21:40 (3 hours, 40 minutes)

[Wanted]

Bring on the predicted data. I missed Firefly last night because of a gap in TV3 listing..... now it's personal :cool:

[SeanOffShotgun]

Bring on the predicted data. I missed Firefly last night because of a gap in TV3 listing..... now it's personal :cool:
That's why this Guide Data Checker is useful. Using it I knew a few days ahead that TV3 had gaps (1 channel among many).

In the current circumstances everybody should be using this module.

Instead of ~moaning~, do what I did and offer to help. :rolleyes:

[Wanted]

Don't be like that. I wasn't moaning. I made a one line comment and Timmy already said it was all but ready. I am aware of the checker. Feel free to ignore me in future especially when it doesn't concern you. I was just letting Timmy (and anyone else working on it) know that what he is working on is wanted and will be appreciated.

[thomson]

Bring on the predicted data. I missed Firefly last night because of a gap in TV3 listing.....

Actually, the predicted data would not solve the problem as it is usually implemented as a duplicate of the previous weeks slice, so if there was a gap in that... then there would be a gap in the predicted data. And you would only be using the predicted data if you had not been able to contact the emulator to receive the real data (which may also have gaps in it).

The program that creates the slice needs to be improved so that there are no gaps in the data. There is a chance that the pa rsers/scrapers are the ones at fault, but the other sources of XML-TV data seem to contain the missing information which leads me to believe it is the slice generator which is getting confused.

For example TV1 always has gaps, but the following script will pa rse the TVNZ site fairly well (for TV2 just replace tvone with tv2 in the URL). It does not work out the duration of the episodes, but that can be deduced from the start time of the following show. [The optional parameter to this function is the day (eg thursday)]


TV1() {
TMP=/tmp/TV_TVNZ_TV1.tmp

if test -n "$1"; then
day="&date=`date -d $1 +%d%m%Y`"
else
day=""
# TVNZ site is a little broken, seems to display yesterdays if
# todays is not available, so hardcode it.
day="&date=`date +%d%m%Y`"
fi

lynx -dump -nolist -width=1024 "http://tvnz.co.nz/view-preempt/tvone_epg_skin/channelDesc=tv_one$day" >$TMP

cat $TMP |\
sed "s,\',',g;s,\&,\&,ig" |\
while read line; do
if test `expr "$line" : '.* [0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]$'` -ne 0; then
title=`echo "$line" | sed 's, \([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\)$,,'`
time=`echo "$line" | sed 's,.* \([0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9]\)$,\1,'`
hour=`echo "$time" | sed 's,:.*,,'`
read desc
desc="`echo "$desc" | sed 's,[0-9]*$,,'`"

echo "$title|$time|TV1|$desc"
fi
done
}

[SeanOffShotgun]

Don't be like that. I wasn't moaning. I made a one line comment and Timmy already said it was all but ready. I am aware of the checker. Feel free to ignore me in future especially when it doesn't concern you. I was just letting Timmy (and anyone else working on it) know that what he is working on is wanted and will be appreciated.
I'm sorry (truly, no smiley here).
Like you with your smiley in your message, what I was saying was not meant to be taken literally. I can see that the ~'s around the word "moaning" and the roll-eyes smiley were not obvious enough (it's not unknown for me to get in trouble like that).

The fact is, previously I have moaned. At the same time I have offered to help, but those offers had not been taken up. My comment here was really a dig at Jaidev, Timmy and Ed - to encourage them to spread the load as there are a few able people out there only too willing.

And lastly, only this morning I have had an offer of my help accepted, so hopefully now I can contribute.

[MrGadget]

Anyone else missing guide data for TV3 only from around 3am Saurday morning (23rd). I have some infomercials at 2:50am that last for 51 hours 10 minutes (I know they always seem to be on but this is just silly :-)). Normal guide data resumes Monday morning.

If you record anything on TV3 over the weekend you better make sure your data is there or set up a manual recording....

Neil

[thomson]

I have some infomercials at 2:50am that last for 51 hours 10 minutes.

Correct... this is actually a problem with the Sky Digital Guide. If you have a look at the EPG under Sky you will also find that they have Infomercials scheduled.

[DJC]

Correct... this is actually a problem with the Sky Digital Guide. If you have a look at the EPG under Sky you will also find that they have Infomercials scheduled.

Yup. from orac... (might need a source3)

SELECT start, finish, day, title, lastupdate, whp
FROM programmes p, channels c
WHERE c.channel_id = p.channel_id AND c.shortname = "TV3" AND start > "2005-04-23"



"2005-04-23 02:20:00";"2005-04-23 02:50:00";"Sat";"M*A*S*H";"2005-04-23 01:04:51";"SOURCE1"
"2005-04-23 02:50:00";"2005-04-23 06:00:00";"Sat";"Infomercials";"2005-04-23 01:04:51";"SOURCE1"
"2005-04-25 06:00:00";"2005-04-25 06:30:00";"Mon";"Hillsong TV";"2005-04-23 04:42:11";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 06:30:00";"2005-04-25 06:55:00";"Mon";"Sesame Street";"2005-04-23 04:42:12";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 06:55:00";"2005-04-25 07:00:00";"Mon";"Ethelbert The Tiger";"2005-04-23 04:42:12";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 07:00:00";"2005-04-25 07:10:00";"Mon";"Bob The Builder";"2005-04-23 04:42:12";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 07:10:00";"2005-04-25 07:35:00";"Mon";"Hamtaro";"2005-04-23 04:42:13";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 07:35:00";"2005-04-25 08:00:00";"Mon";"The Baskervilles";"2005-04-23 04:42:13";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 08:00:00";"2005-04-25 08:25:00";"Mon";"Rocko's Modern Life";"2005-04-23 04:42:14";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 08:25:00";"2005-04-25 08:30:00";"Mon";"Pingu";"2005-04-23 04:42:14";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 08:30:00";"2005-04-25 09:00:00";"Mon";"Friendly Monster's Holiday";"2005-04-23 04:42:14";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 09:00:00";"2005-04-25 10:00:00";"Mon";"Acceleracers: Ignition";"2005-04-23 04:42:19";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 10:00:00";"2005-04-25 12:00:00";"Mon";"M*A*S*H";"2005-04-23 04:42:19";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 12:00:00";"2005-04-25 13:00:00";"Mon";"Last Of The Anzacs";"2005-04-23 04:42:23";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 13:00:00";"2005-04-25 14:00:00";"Mon";"Knight Rider";"2005-04-23 04:42:24";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 14:00:00";"2005-04-25 14:30:00";"Mon";"Short Cuts";"2005-04-23 04:42:24";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 14:30:00";"2005-04-25 15:00:00";"Mon";"Galidor";"2005-04-23 04:42:25";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 15:00:00";"2005-04-25 15:30:00";"Mon";"Arthur";"2005-04-23 04:42:29";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 15:30:00";"2005-04-25 16:30:00";"Mon";"Sticky TV";"2005-04-23 04:42:29";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 16:30:00";"2005-04-25 17:00:00";"Mon";"Malcolm In The Middle";"2005-04-23 04:42:29";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 17:00:00";"2005-04-25 17:30:00";"Mon";"The Simpsons";"2005-04-23 04:42:30";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 17:30:00";"2005-04-25 18:00:00";"Mon";"Home And Away";"2005-04-23 04:42:30";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 18:00:00";"2005-04-25 19:00:00";"Mon";"3 News";"2005-04-23 04:42:35";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 19:00:00";"2005-04-25 19:30:00";"Mon";"Campbell Live";"2005-04-23 04:42:35";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 19:30:00";"2005-04-25 20:30:00";"Mon";"60 Minutes";"2005-04-23 04:42:35";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 20:30:00";"2005-04-25 23:15:00";"Mon";"The Mummy Returns";"2005-04-23 04:42:36";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 23:15:00";"2005-04-25 23:45:00";"Mon";"Nightline";"2005-04-23 04:42:40";"SOURCE2"
"2005-04-25 23:45:00";"2005-04-26 00:00:00";"Mon";"Sports Tonight";"2005-04-23 04:42:40";"SOURCE2"

[Muzza]

I have no data for TV3 or Prime currently - is this expected?

[SeanOffShotgun]

I have no data for TV3 or Prime currently - is this expected?
No, I've got data for those channels.
Try:
# touch /var/timestamp
# force_index.tcl
# reboot


Then wait lots of hours.

[zollymonsta]

Unless of course your TiVo hasn't made a daily call yet. Check via TiVo web..

Mine, which had prime missing, is just loading new data now (it just made a daily call)

[MrGadget]

Seems I have absolutely no guide data (more or less) and I don't seem to be picking up anything new from the emulator...
A) Is there an issue ?
B) Tim's site (http://216.58.174.222/tjvinfo/nztivo.slice) is down at the moment - any other way I can get a slice ?

[Wanted]

I'm in the same boat so it's not just you.

[MrGadget]

Well, semi good to know :-)

For what it's worth, I would be happy to provide an alternate host site for the guide data as a back up (for manual downloads) if it would help in these situations (though it would appear that since the emulator has no data either then this may not help in this particular case...)

Cheers
Neil

[DJC]

You could try the development slice --- at your own risk!!!

See this thread (http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=570)... there is also a development emulator at ... see this thread (http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=578)

The development effort is in need of testers.

[TerminalAddict]

*bumpiety* *bump* :(
me too

[Wanted]

I'm more than happy to test... if I can get it set up and working. I'm still pretty clueless at loading slices etc. I'm setting up for the dev emulator now but it says it will take an hour to clear the empty to do list and almost empty program data....

[MrGadget]

Do let us know how you go with it - sounds interesting!

I on the otherhand will be patient and wait for a fix to the current issue - which I hope is coming soonish :-)

[Wanted]

I changed the IP in the config file and ran a daily call but it downloaded really fast and there's no data there. I got a nzTiVo welcome message but that seems to be it. Well i'm off to New World to get a TV Guide I guess. ;)

[DJC]

I changed the IP in the config file and ran a daily call but it downloaded really fast and there's no data there. I got a nzTiVo welcome message but that seems to be it. Well i'm off to New World to get a TV Guide I guess. ;)

What is your postcode set to ... looks like 02115 (saturn yes?) to me so the emulator hasn't advertised a slice to you. Can you confirm and I'll build a slice for that postcode.

[MrGadget]

I changed the IP in the config file and ran a daily call but it downloaded really fast and there's no data there. I got a nzTiVo welcome message but that seems to be it. Well i'm off to New World to get a TV Guide I guess. ;)


Just looking at the slice file, (http://orac.caffeine.co.nz/nzdev.slice) it's about 1.42 meg which should have something contained within...
What about manually downloading it on your PC (mac?) and ftp'ing (binary mode) it across to your /tmp/ directory. then type
dbload30.tcl nzdev.slice

May work better...

When that's done, you may want to force an index by typing:
cd /var/hack/bin
tivosh force_index.tcl


Good luck.

[DJC]

Well i'm off to New World to get a TV Guide I guess. ;)

Try again ...

[Wanted]

I'll try again now and post the result. You are right I am saturn.

Looking better now. It's doing the loading data thing ATM. I'll force an index afterwards too.

Finished loading data. Looks good. All the programming is there up to around mid-day Thursday. :) Was quite a painless process. I'll post any problems etc in the other thread. Thanks for your help with this.

Only thing missing is Discovery T&A channel but that will be because Sky doesn't have it. I also didn't back up the Season Passes and Wishlists that are all gone now so if you are setting it up it's a good idea to back them up first.

[neilp]

and it looks OK, I'm missing a couple of channels completely (geographic, BBC, TCM & MGM i think) but a lot better than nowt!

I spot checked a bit with the listener and couldn't find any faults.

Good suggestion to mirror the slice file MrGadget, why don't you just set up to grab it every day so if the main site falls over there will at least be a slice available even if a day old... (Was good to catch up on Fri at the bard BTW, the big wide world must be agreeing with you...!)

[Wibble]

I've switched to the nzdev slices on orac as well.

It looks very good, I have data for all the sky channels.

I had backed up my season passes etc using tivowebplus and restored them afterwards, (I had to remap the channels in the restore, it defaulted to CNN) but it didn't pickup any of the upcoming shows in the todo list.
Either you must reindex or something like that or something in the passes doesn't match.
I recreated a season pass from the tivo remote interface and that picked up the incoming shows.

So, not a big thing but something to be aware of.

Also can anybody using the data on orac try the grid in the web interface, mine now fails as follows:
INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_grid '/' ''
called "sue_wochandata" with too many arguments
while executing
"sue_wochandata $chan $fsid $minseconds $maxseconds $callsign $stationfsid $filler $columnWidth"
("uplevel" body line 2)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"ForeachMfsFile fsid name type "/Schedule" "$stationfsid:$chkdate" {
if {[catch [sue_wochandata $chan $fsid $minseconds $maxseconds $callsign $st..."
(procedure "::action_grid" line 192)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--

[Wanted]

Also can anybody using the data on orac try the grid in the web interface, mine now fails as follows:

Mine seems to work fine while using dev. I'm using the 3.0 image default version "TiVo Web Project - TCL v1.9.4"

[DJC]

Yes ... season passes will need to be re-done. The programme and episode numbers on the development system will not match the main system. So this mismatch will mean any previous s/passes will not work.

As for the dump from grid, I've only seen that while the tivo is still indexing.

/DJC

[BruceC]

Hi,

Just wondering if me (as a very novice TIVO'er) should just wait for things to right themselves with the help of the Gods I call "TIVO data creator people" or should I be doing this whole Dev slice thing?

backing up lists etc sounds a bit scary, but I don't have many so I could rebuild.

But if the emulator is likely to have a working slice in the next 24 - 48 hours I can hang out for that I guess.

Any ideas TIVO data creator gods/people?

Cheers
Bruce

[ehintz]

Ok, so as many have noted, Timmy's site is down. The main emulator (not the devel one) pulls the data from Timmy's site, so if it's down the emulator gets no data. I've sent notes to Timmy and Jaidev to see what we can sort out. One option would be for Jaidev to upload direct to the emulator, so that may be the solution if Timmy's site is going to be down for a bit. I'll advise as as soon as I hear anything from either of 'em(if they don't post it here as well).

Meanwhile, as has been noted, the dev emulator seems to work, but will hose any existing season passses and such, and appears to be a relatively big jump. So it's your call what you wan't to do... I'm aware of the issue an on it, but largely dependent upon at least Jaidev (if it's decided to just upload the slices direct) and possibly Timmy (if the current situation stays the same).

[Wibble]

If it would help, I could setup another emulator on orac for the live stuff (ie: non development) now that I know how to do that.

The data/slices would have to be uploaded by somebody though.

[ehintz]

Wouldn't make any difference at the moment... Problem is slice supply to the emulator. The emu is happily chugging away, but there's no data to feed it for distribution.

[Wibble]

Could DJC's slices on orac be converted to work with the current emulator, so it matches the current setups.

The actual data is there and works (that's what I am currently using).

[ehintz]

Dunno... If the channels are the same format, it would at least populate something, though the series IDs and such would be hosed (and therefore season passess and such would likewise be hosed). Any idea if it's using the same channel IDs?

[DJC]

Problem here is that I use a slightly different method to build the slices since I'm pullng data from the soon to be 'community' database ... and as a result have a different set of episode, series and program numbers in the slice file.

I can quickly deliver a set of intermediate files for jaidev whilst timmy is offline.

[DJC]

Dunno... If the channels are the same format, it would at least populate something, though the series IDs and such would be hosed (and therefore season passess and such would likewise be hosed). Any idea if it's using the same channel IDs?

Yes, spot on Ed, channel ids are same .. the dev emulator is currently running same headends as the main/your emulator and all guide data channel's match this. See previous post on progs/series records and episode numbers.

[Next stage in development is to create headends directly from mysql, but that probably won't happen till I get back... unless someone volunteers (I've coded up the base extracation mechanism ... but thats a disuscussion for the dev forum)]

[MrGadget]

...though the series IDs and such would be hosed (and therefore season passess and such would likewise be hosed).

If that's the case, is there any benefit to doing this over swapping to the dev slice ?

[ehintz]

Ok, Timmy's back and there's a new slice waiting at the emulator, so call away...

[brian]

I just made a call - "Failed. Service unavailable". :(

Finally time to make the switch to the emulator??

Brian

[Wibble]

I just made a call - "Failed. Service unavailable". :(

Finally time to make the switch to the emulator??

Brian
Did you change the ip address in loadguide.conf to the new (temporary) server?
See: http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=583

[brian]

Note to self: RTF Forums...

Many thanks
Brian

[BruceC]

Hi,

I guess I'm not the only one who came out of the last week with NO data at all - then getting data on Mon/Tues but with TV3 running out at 11am today (thursday)....And I just noticed I have nothing on discovery also but I have data on other channels as far ahead as Sunday.

Hoping Friday's slice will add TV3 and Discovery back into the mix !

Cheers
Bruce

[MrGadget]

No, there were some issues with data last week (on the main emulator), fixed apparently on Monday. I currently have guide data for all channels, with at least channels 2&3 going through to Tuesday next week.
Perhaps you should try manually downloading the data for the time being.

[BruceC]

Thanks for thje advice. Yeah I got what looked like all channel data on Monday but TV3 just ran out early while other channels have data for longer periods.

Being a complete unix novice and a happy emulator user....

Do I just FTP the file from Orac and get it onto my Tivo. THen run some command to load that file?

I will take a look at the NZ Tivo site and hopefully there is a HowTo..

I did load the NoNag Slice a few months back but forgotten how I did it !!

And lastly, if I load the odd slice manually it won't effect future (eg: Tomorrow/Friday's) emulater slice grab?

Cheers
Bruce

[DJC]

Telnet your tivo

wget the nztivo.slice can do it from the tmp dir or other location if you have a slice dir etc.



cd /tmp
wget 210.48.107.133/slice/nztivo.slice
/hack/bin/dbload30.tcl ./nztivo.slice


Will do the trick for you.

Manual load of slice should not affect future emulator ops. Its a slice so the next slice will load in sequence (its slice number will be > than current).