Let movies be movies...

[DJC]

Any chance the all contet on the sky movie channels 1, 2, MGM, TCM could be tagged as movies in the guide data.

When you select recording by ...

search by title -> movies -> any cat -> A

The list is quite compact :o

[timmy]

umm not quite sure how to flag them as movies, will ask Jaidev..

certainly if its just a matter of adding a flag to the records then yeah it's pretty trivial..

Dont know didly about the tivo guide data internals truth be told..

[DJC]

Number6 has this down in this (http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=329) thread in the dev forum.

Which raises an interesting point in that more than just moves could be tagged out.. infact looking at these top level genres much more could be tagged

1000 = Interests, 1001 = Children, 1002 = Comedy, 1003 = Daytime, 1004 = Documentary, 1005 = Drama, 1006 = Movies, 1007 = News and Business, 1008 = Science and Nature, 1009 = Sports, 1010 = Talk Shows, 1011 = Action Adventure, 1012 = Educational, 1013 = Mystery and Suspense, 1014 = Sci-Fi and Fantasy, 1016 = Arts

Could certainly tag programmes on nick and cartoons as 1001, and could get awa with tagging sky news programmes as 1007, sky spots channels 1009, and of course stuff on movies channels.

[jaidev]

Uhmm it's genre categories I think... all comes down to wktivoguide's programs file...

This file holds the known program names and a list of genre identifiers separated by commas. The two columns are tab-separated. You should use at least one broad category name, but you can use any of the names given in the genretypes file.

It's the broad category which is used to flag movies I guess,
i.e. Austin Powers Movie,Comedy,Adult

there is also a stationgenre file, which I guess will set the broad category for that station itself.

The data doesn't have the correct genre, so it's a matter of adding it later, which is a bitch, hence why Tim had a webpage dedicated for people to manually add it to programs in a database which we would then merge to the current programs file, worked once then no one did it.

So to answer your question, for the Sky movies channels maybe I could play with the stationgenre file and see what we get.
But for movies on TV1,2,3 etc , only if it's in the programs file with the 'movie' broadcategory.

[DJC]

This is from the source code of wktivoguide....


Genre Numbers
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Genre numbers are employed by the TiVo to group programs into groups of all shows with similar content and to make recommendations for shows to record, based on historical preferences exhibited by the user.

The lower numbered genres (1-999) are used to make recommendations for shows to record. If a trend is detected in the shows watched by a user which indicates their interest in a particular genre, other shows of the same genre will be automatically recorded. This method is applied elsewhere too (e.g. the same sort of recommended show recording is done for actors).

The genres numbered above 1000 are used to group programs into broad groups of shows with similar content. These 16 genres appear on the TiVo selection lists for choose by name, browse by channel and browse by time. Their use there is to reduce the list of programs to choose from before the user's further selection criteria is applied. Thus, selecting "movies" on the list for choose by name will only allow selection from a list of programs that have the "movie group" genre as one of their properties.

So from this, if the stationgenre file is updated then it should 'let movies be movies'. Well at least from the point of view of the origin of this thread using the tivo search by movies function... The genre codes are consistent with the genretypes file used in wktivoguide.

[jaidev]

Ok, done..
Heres the list of station genre's.. It's actually a tab seperated list, the forum doesn't show it..

Should take affect next slice build..

If you have any suggestions, additions, changes then keep them to yourself :p...
kidding, post them here..

Now why the hell would 'Sleddogs' be a genre?! Same goes for a few of those sports genre's..

TV1
TV2
TV3
UKTV
SKY1
PRIME
E RealLife,DocumentaryGroup
LIVING ArtsMusicLiving
SPORT1 Sports,SportsGroup
SPORT2 Sports,SportsGroup
SPORT3 Sports,SportsGroup
ESPN Sports,SportsGroup
TRACKSIDE Sports,SportsGroup
RUGBY Rugby,SportsGroup
MOVIES1 Movie,Movies
MOVIES2 Movie,Movies
MGM Movie,Movies
RIALTO Movie,Movies
TCM Movie,Classic,Movies
JUICE Music,ArtsMusicLiving
J2 Music,ArtsMusicLiving
C4 Music,ArtsMusicLiving
MAORI
DISNEY Children,ChildrensGroup
CARTOON Children,ChildrensGroup
NICKEL Children,ChildrensGroup
TVSN Shopping,Daytime
DISCOVERY Documentary,ScienceNatureTechnology,DocumentaryGro up
GEOGRAPHIC Documentary,ScienceNatureTechnology,DocumentaryGro up
ANIMAL Animals,Documentary,DocumentaryGroup
HISTORY Historical,DocumentaryGroup
NEWSAUS News,NewsBusinessWeather
BBC News,NewsBusinessWeather
CNN News,NewsBusinessWeather
ARTS Art,ArtsMusicLiving
SBO60 Movie,Movies
SBO61 Movie,Movies
SBO62 Movie,Movies
SBO63 Movie,Movies
SBO64 Movie,Movies
SBO65 Movie,Movies
SBO66 Movie,Movies
SBO67 Movie,Movies
PLAYBOY Movie,Adult
SPICE Movie,Adult
SPICE2 Movie,Adult
JTV International
KTV International
CTV1 International
CTV2 International
CTV3 International
CTV4 International
CTV5 International
REALGOOD Music,ArtsMusicLiving
NEWSUPREMO Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SOUTHLAND Music,ArtsMusicLiving
NoNag
SHINE Religion,ArtsMusicLiving
CHANNELZ Music,ArtsMusicLiving
NATIONAL Music,ArtsMusicLiving
CONCERT Music,ArtsMusicLiving
NIU Music,ArtsMusicLiving
GEORGE Music,ArtsMusicLiving
TAHU Music,ArtsMusicLiving
CALVARY Music,ArtsMusicLiving
MAI Music,ArtsMusicLiving
APNA Music,International,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMNZ Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMPOP Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMSMOOTH Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMCHILL Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMJAZZ Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMHOUSE Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDM5060 Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMPARTY Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMROCK Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMCOUNTRY Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMCLASSIC Music,Classic,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMKIDS Music,Children,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMBLUES Music,ArtsMusicLiving
SDMSPECIAL Music,Specials,ArtsMusicLiving
FTA-TV1
FTA-TV2
FTA-TV3
FTA-C4 Music,ArtsMusicLiving


Here is the list of genre catergories as known by the TiVo

ArtsMusicLiving 1000
ChildrensGroup 1001
DocumentaryGroup
ComedyGroup 1002
Daytime 1003
DocumentaryGroup 1004
DramaGroup 1005
Movies 1006
NewsBusinessWeather 1007
ScienceNatureTechnology 1008
SportsGroup 1009
TalkShows 1010


Unknown 0
Action 1
Adult 2
Animals 3
Animated 4
Anthology 5
Art 6
Auto 7
AutoMaintenance 8
Awardshow 9
Ballet 10
Baseball 11
Basketball 12
Beauty 13
Bicycle 14
Billiards 15
Biography 16
Boating 17
Bodybuilding 18
Bowling 19
Boxing 20
Business 21
Children 22
Classic 23
Collectibles 24
Comedy 25
Computers 26
Cooking 27
Courtroom 28
Crime 29
Crimedrama 30
Curling 31
Dance 32
Docudrama 33
Documentary 34
Drama 35
Educational 36
Electronics 37
Family 38
Fantasy 39
Fashion 40
Fishing 41
Football 42
French 43
Fundraiser 44
GameShow 45
Golf 46
Gymnastics 47
Health 48
Historical 49
Historicaldrama 50
Hockey 51
Holiday 52
Holidayspecial 53
Homegarden 54
Horror 55
Horse 56
Housewares 57
Howto 58
International 59
Interview 60
Jewelry 61
Lacrosse 62
Magazine 63
MartialArts 64
Medical 65
MotorSports 66
Motorcycles 67
Movie 68
Music 69
Musical 70
Mystery 71
Nature 72
News 73
Olympics 74
Opera 75
Outdoors 76
PublicAffairs 77
Racquetball 78
RealLife 79
Religion 80
Rodeo 81
Romance 82
RomanticComedy 83
Rugby 84
Running 85
Satire 86
Science 87
ScienceFiction 88
Selfhelp 89
Shopping 90
Situation 91
Skating 92
Skiing 93
Sleddogs 94
Snowsports 95
SoapOpera 96
Soccer 97
Softball 98
Spanish 99
Specials 100
Sports 101
SportsNews 102
SportsTalk 103
Suspense 104
Swimming 105
Talk 106
Talkshow 107
Tennis 108
Theatre 109
Thriller 110
TrackField 111
Travel 112
Variety 113
Volleyball 114
War 115
Watersports 116
Weather 117
Western 118
Wrestling 119

[DJC]

If you have any suggestions, additions, changes then keep them to yourself :p...

LOL :D Actaully .. keen for your comment on this (http://forums.oztivo.net/showthread.php?t=337) thread in the developers forum.