Philips series 1 Tivo - can't see it on the network

[ianjf2000]

Hi there,
Last year brought a Philips Series 1 from Trademe and have left the machine sat on a desk for 6 months.
Finally got around today to plugging it in and getting her going. Eventually Tivo starts and boots in to the menus - but I can't run guided set up.
I know I need to telnet the Tivo, but I can't seem to see it on the network.
Anyone got any ideas?
It's running a Turbocard which is plugged in. I'm getting a green light on the router saying there is something there, but nothing comes up when I scan the network.
Could this Tivo be running a static IP?
Is there an easy way to find it?
Thanks, Ian

[Skolink]

It could well be on a static IP. If the last owner had the option enabled, on reboot a new message will be created in "messages and preferences" on the TiVo menu - probably only on DHCP though.
You could try setting your PC IP to the most likely ranges, 10.1.1.x or 10.0.0.x or 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x.
You other options are using a TiVo serial cable, or pulling the HDD and using the OzTiVo PC boot CD to change the options.
Are you in Christchurch or Dunedin by any chance?

[catdog]

Depending on which software is currently running on it, try pressing "Clear" "1" "Clear" on the remote in quick succession and hopefully the IP address will be displayed on the TV screen

Key combos can be found at http://www.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/Howto/RemoteControlCheatCodes

[ianjf2000]

Hi all thanks for your replies.

Update.

I've tried running an IP Address scanner through 10.0.0.x, 10.1.1.x, 192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x. So far no joy.
I've checked the network connections are securely in - and they appear fine.
I've also tried the trick with the remote control - didn't work.
I don't have a serial cable - so can't try that. In Auckland.

Any other ideas?

[ianjf2000]

OK under messages on the Tivo menu it says the IP Address should be 192.169.0.20 - but I ping the address and get nothing.
Green light is on the card under the hood - so thats a good sign.

[ianjf2000]

One more thing.
Does it matter if the MAC address is different to what is on the Tivo compared to what I have on my mac laptop?

[ianjf2000]

Right OK now thinking the issue is range of the router - which is also set 192.168.1.x - and the Tivo's static IP is 192.168.0.20.

Anyone know how to change the settings on a Spedtouch router to change the range?

[ianjf2000]

Right - progress!

I have managed to extend the routers range - and can finally see 192.168.0.20 (the Tivo) come up when logged in to the router. Mac address matches too.

Only thing is I can't telnet it - and it doesn't show when pinged.

[Skolink]

You will need to set your PC's address to 192.169.0.X (not .20) to be able to communicate with the TiVo.

[ianjf2000]

Sorry John not sure what you mean?

The IP adress of the Tivo is 192.168.0.20 (set to static IP).

It shows up on the router - 192.168.0.254. But I can't seem to connect to it at all?

[Skolink]

That's correct. The TiVo and the PC must be on the same subnet to talk to each other. In your case this means that the TiVo and the PC must both have the same first three numbers in their IP address. Since you can't change the TiVo to 192.168.1.20 (same subnet as PC), you will have to change the PC address to 192.168.0.x.

[ianjf2000]

Thanks John.

The router (a Thomson Speedtouch) was initially set to 192.168.1.x. with the subnet set to 255.255.255.0

This is a tricky little router which is buggy. I can't change the router subnet mask by logging in, due a known bug. Instead I have to down the config file, open in text edit / note pad and find and replace the 192.168.1 with 0. Then replace it with the original file (.ini). This does work, but at the moment I have the router set to 192.168.1.x and 192.168.0.x - which I suspect I need to delete the 1.x so it runs just off of 0.x.

I'll give this a go.

Is there a way of finding the subnet mask on the Tivo?

BTW - Tivo is at my in-laws place, so I'm only getting the chance to work on it when I get up there at weekends.

Thanks for your help so far.

[ianjf2000]

Update on my Philips series 1.

Turns out the router my inlaws is using has a bug which makes it difficult to change the IP address of from 192.168.1.x > 192.168.0.x.

So I managed to bring it back to my place. I changed my router IP range and picked up the Tivo on 192.168.0.20. I then changed the address to within range of my network, then restarted the Tivo and set the router back to 192.168.1.x. Hey presto! Able to see the Tivo on the network. Changed to guided set up and we're away. Also managed to get the latest version of Tivo Web Plus running. Now just need to plug it in to my in-laws home network and hope she works.