Tivo Help Please :)

[erhan75]

Hi Darren,
I;m sure you were expecting my post some day hehe

Firstly you have done a FANTASTIC job with my Sony Tivo.

Thank you very much! Now i need to know how to use the thing hehe

I have set up my D Link Wireless bridge as a DHCP and does it take awhile for the DHCP for the tivo to pick it up? Or do i need to reset or reboot it?

Also the Strong remote doesn't work :( is there a way of going into the meny and changing these settings? I did alittle reading and it says to goto "recorder & phone setup" but when i click on it, nothing happens? Its like its disabled or something?

e

[erhan75]

Ok.. just did some major testing and hooked up the IR and yes the remote works with the tivo but sometimes the channels dont change. I get a blue screen saying "The recorder cannot display live tv. try the following tips etc etc..."

If i get close to the rcorder it starts to change the channels again?
But if im sitting 3 to 4 meters away it doesnt unless i reset the recorder?

I also dont know if the tivo has picked up the DHCP, ill wait a day or two and see if the epg continues to update.

The only major problem now is the EPG starts from 101 to 999 for ausstar.

The channels on my sat box runs from 1 to 130.

I've downloaded PuTTy to telnet to the Tivo so i can change the channel
setting numbers but i cannot connect. my wireless bridge is 192.168.1.5
im getting a cannot connect error.

could this be because the tivo isnt connected to the net or a firewall?

If i can edit the channels for the epg then the channels will all line up and i can make use of the epg.

is there any other software other then putty that i can try?

e

[Darren King]

Glad you like the work I did.


Ok.. just did some major testing and hooked up the IR and yes the remote works with the tivo but sometimes the channels dont change. I get a blue screen saying "The recorder cannot display live tv. try the following tips etc etc..."

IR changes can be flakey with some models of STB without some fiddling. There are some tips on the OzTiVo website to improve it.


If i get close to the rcorder it starts to change the channels again?
But if im sitting 3 to 4 meters away it doesnt unless i reset the recorder?

I'm confused here. Have you changed topic and now talking about the TiVo remote not responding with the TiVo or the IR Blaster not working with the TiVo. If you are talking about the TiVo remote performance with the TiVo is this with the peanut remote you got with the TiVo or the Sony remote? Does the same thing happen with both?


I also dont know if the tivo has picked up the DHCP, ill wait a day or two and see if the epg continues to update.

Sorry I can't help with using wireless bridge devices on turbonet cards. Never used them. There is some information on the OzTiVo website. Same goes for your PuTTY connection issues as this is all external to a TiVo and/or software configuration and not what I specialise in.



The only major problem now is the EPG starts from 101 to 999 for ausstar.

Correct. Austar Digital run from 101 to 999 and this is what the EPG conforms to.


The channels on my sat box runs from 1 to 130.

Most - if not all - STB have the option to edit the channel lineup. This is what you will need to do to bring it in line with Austar Digital standards, or consult Austar on what you need to do with your STB. Some have known to have to get their STB swapped for another make by their pay TV provider due to IR compatibility problems.

[erhan75]

Thank for your reply Darren.. yeah the IR is alittle funny.. if i use the digits it works fine, but if i use the CH Up/Down then use the channels then the digits don't work anymore.

I need to reset the Tivo for it to work again.

Also as i mentioned before the EPG runs from 101 to 999 so i need to change the 101 to 999 to 1 to 130. I think this can be done via telnet.

If this can be done then i wil have a play over the weekend.

If not then i guess the tivo will be worthless unless i find another solution.

e

[petestrash]

Darren has suggested you change the channels on your STB not on the TiVo.

Your channels should match Austar's anyway.

Peter.

[erhan75]

that wont be posible bro, the channels range from 101 to 999 so i will need to fill in the gaps with a channels i dont need, and that wont be posible as you cannot double up on channels.

[petestrash]

Talk to Austar, we use their channel numbering so there must be a way to get your STB to match their guide. a lot of boxes allow you to move channels allowing unused gaps. Or they may need to send you an update over the satellite.

Unless you are not using an Austar STB?

Peter

[petestrash]

I now understand your problem. The only option is make the changes on the TiVo, but this really ugly as each time Austar changes their line up, even just adding or removing a single channel you will need to move all the stations again as your work will be overwitten by a new headend after a daily call.

Peter.

[erhan75]

Peter it's really rare that they will change there line up, i dont mind changing things around if needed as long as i know how to do it :)

May i ask why you have so many Tivos? Do you record one to another to another to another? ;)

e

[Darren King]

As I am to hardware, Peter is one of our senior software enthusiasts with TiVo (see, I told you that I am not the expert on everything TiVo). Therefore having more than one TiVo is handy for testing purposes.

[erhan75]

Agghh testing.. good stuff Peter is there a way of telneting to the tivo and changing the channel order for the EPG?

e

[catdog]

You should be able to remap the channel numbers from Tivoweb using the ChannelMap module :)

[erhan75]

Hi CatDog, I tried Tivoweb but I cannot access it. I don't know if i'm doing anything wrong but my Tivo is a DHCP as well as the Wireless bridge.

When i do a ip scan i get it on 192.168.1.5

When i FTP to that IP i get the Dlink Wireless bridge page and not the TivoWeb page?

e

[catdog]

I have never used a wireless bridge, but shouldn't the Dlink Wireless bridge and the Tivo network card each be assigned a seperate IP address?

[petestrash]

Peter it's really rare that they will change there line up, i dont mind changing things around if needed as long as i know how to do it :)

I didn't want you to take my comment lightly, according to our records Austar have made 6 changes so far this year and 36 changes since Austar Digital started.

After each change you will need to renumber all stations again.


May i ask why you have so many Tivos? Do you record one to another to another to another? ;)

The footer is actually out of date :D We actually have 6 in day to day use and a couple more for software testing.

One just records Selectv, and the for the others we found that chances are any decent show is most likely to be on between 7:30-9:30 so we always had conflicts or had to cut off shows on one channel to start on another.

We never watch live tv.

Peter.

[petestrash]

When i FTP to that IP i get the Dlink Wireless bridge page and not the TivoWeb page?

If you look at your Dlink page, does it show the tivo is connected and what IP is assigned to it.

Peter.

[erhan75]

Excellent point Pete, when i do a ip scan i get 3 pings router, laptop and dlink.

i think the tivo does not ping because its linux based?

e

[petestrash]

TiVo respond to pings same as most devices.

When you turn your TiVo on, you should recieve a message about a power failure. If your TiVo has sucessfully received an IP address from your DHCP server then it will also be shown in this message.

I suggest while you are setting up to connect the TiVo directly to your router via a cable and then once stable try wireless.

Peter.

[erhan75]

Hi pete, when i first got the tivo from Darren it had 2 messages. 1 was for epg and the other for ip. the ip was 0.0.0.0.

Now darren has made it DHCP and my wireless bridge is also dhcp.

I know the wireless bridge is working because if i plug that into a pc without any other source of internet conection i get a ip and i'm able to browse the net.

Now in the tivo i have no messages at all?

Does this mean i need to reset it?

e

[petestrash]

Just unplug it from power, wait a few seconds then plug it back in. You should get a new message within 5 minutes.

Peter.

[Darren King]

I suggest while you are setting up to connect the TiVo directly to your router via a cable and then once stable try wireless.

What Peter suggests would be the best starting point. Eliminates the wireless portion and ensures everything else is working correctly. Once that is established you go from there.

[erhan75]

Ok i have unplugged it and plugged it back in and im getting 0.0.0.0

Now does the MAC address play a big part?

I dont have any mac address and its disabled..

The wireless bridge works fine with the xbox and computer without any other a LAN or Wireless connection.

e

[petestrash]

What do you mean you don't have a mac address? I assume Darren would have set this for you. Has something changed?

Peter.

[Darren King]

What do you mean you don't have a mac address? I assume Darren would have set this for you.

Sure did. I include a double sided A4 sheet of paper with every TiVo I work on outlining what I have done. The copy that Erhan would have received lists exactly what the network configuration is along with the MAC address of the TiVo.

I think from reading the replies Erhan may be getting MAC address and IP address confused.

[erhan75]

Ok i think you guys have gotten the wrong idea :)

The IP is 0.0.0.0 (yes i know what a ip is)
The Mac address is on the A4 which Darren has given me.

My Netcomm Wireless Modem Router With Voip has the Mac Address
area which is disabled.

Now I think I need to add the following to the routers Mac area.

Mac Addres for my laptop to the router
Mac addres for the wireless bridge to the router
Mac address for my Media Center PC to the router
Mac address for the Tivo to the router

Then enable the MAC address area in the router for them to work?

I'm guessing this is what I need to do?

peace

e

[Darren King]

If the MAC address area in the router is currently disabled and you are getting other devices to work (eg your computer and xbox or whatever) then this suggests that the "disabled" option means it is allowing all to connect without blocking any devices. Turning it "on" would then mean you need to specify the MAC address of every device on your network.

So, no. I am quite certain that leaving it disabled will mean MAC address filtering is disabled.

As previously suggested have you tried connecting the TiVo directly (wired) to the router? Does this work?

[erhan75]

Oh Darren if only you knew how far the router is from the tivo.

The router is on the fridge in the kitchen, that's where our phone line is :)

What i will do is bering the lcd on in the kitchen and the tivo and set it up for testing. If i get the tivoweb working then i guess theres a firewall or some setting in the bridge i need to change.

Actully I'll see if i can get a 10 meter Cat5 cable from somewhere and test it like that.. seems easier then bringing everything into the kitchen.. huh?

I'll give that a go in the next few days and see how I go..

e

[Darren King]

Actully I'll see if i can get a 10 meter Cat5 cable from somewhere and test it like that.. seems easier then bringing everything into the kitchen.. huh?

That would be a good idea. The purpose is not to make it a permanent wired connection but to eliminate as many points of failure as possible.

If the wired connection works then we progress from there and add in the wireless components.

In times like this it is much easier breaking down the problem into segments rather than trying to solve everything at once.

[erhan75]

The thing is though does tivoweb actually support editing of the epg?

if so what else can the tivoweb do?

e

[petestrash]

TiVoWeb can do many things, too many to list here try a search for yourself.

What do you mean by 'editing of the epg'?

From what I understand, without an IP right now you should not be getting any guide data and that should be your biggest concern.

Peter.

[erhan75]

Peter i want to be able to change the channel line up from 101 to 99 to 001 to 130 in the epg. I'm guess the tivoweb will allow me to edit the EPG lineup?

[petestrash]

Yes, TiVoWeb does have a Channel Map module which will allow you to do that.

It has nothing to do with EPG though, it just changes the channels on your TiVo.

But right now you are not receiving any EPG information and this needs to be fixed, otherwise it makes no difference how the channels are lined up.

Peter.

[erhan75]

Peter i think i was getting epg last time i checked. But i will confirm tonight when i get home. Whats the diffrence between channel line up and EPG channel line up? Or are they the same thing?

i'll let yo know tonight if the epg receives data or not.

cheers mate

e

[petestrash]

Whats the diffrence between channel line up and EPG channel line up? Or are they the same thing?

In your last few posts you have only written EPG which is 'Electronic Program Guide'. You did not mention Channels so we didn't really know what you where talking about. If you would have asked about channels instead of EPG it would have been clearer.

Peter.

[erhan75]

example:

(Tue 8:00pm) 101 TV1

101 TV1 Jag 730pm Jag
8:20pm Enertainment Daily

etc...

See the 101 ? I want to be able to change that channel to a channel of my chose?

Now Im getting EPG data on some channels and some I'm not. I think it takes time to download the data?

I'm getting "to be announced" on the rest of the channels except

Tv1
SBS
ABC
Sci Fi
Tv1+2
BBc

So it looks like the Ethernet is working :)

e

[petestrash]

I doubt that it is.

The channels you have listed are the few that we have more then a weeks worth on the system. So this were more than likely downloaded when Darren had your Tivo.

If you do not have an IP address you will not be downloading guide data.

Easy way to see is look at the last date you have data for on a couple of channels then look again in a few days and see if it has changed.

Peter.