starting recording early and late finish

[donm]

Just had a HDD failure - put in a new 160 GIG and all is OK except that recordings default to starting and finishing on time. How do I change that? Used the latest 1.6.2

Cheers Don

[petestrash]

endpad needs to have at least 2 recordings in the todo list to work, or it just dies.

Add 2 shows then reboot.

Peter.

[donm]

thanks again for your help. will give that a go. I've got one other problem. The sound hiccups every minute or so in live TV and any recordings made. Slightly annoying.

Cheers

Don

[petestrash]

Sounds like you are still in maintenance mode. A Reboot usually fixes this also.

If it doesn't use TWP and go into the PalNtsc section and show us what your current boot parameters are.

Peter.

[donm]

OK you are a bit ahead of me. TWP = Tivo web Plus? Have gone there but where do I find PalNTSC? Have rebooted several times and proble persists. display is full screen so I do not thik I am in NTSC mode. Boot up does not say maintenance mode like it did when I first installed the image.

hope the above is clear Peter. Thanks

Don

[donm]

OK found the parameters on TWP under Sysadmin root=/dev/hda4 runideturbo=false TV_STD=PAL GS=0.

After two more reboots sound now seems OK at the moment.

Cheers again Peter. You are such a knowledgebase on the machine.

Don

[petestrash]

Glad to hear it's ok now.

Peter

[donm]

OK I know it has been a while since I have revisited this but I still have the stuttering sound. Also no padding of recordings. I have to add that through TWP. GS=0 which I believe is correct.

Any clues Don

[petestrash]

Is the sound an issue on all channels?

What is your inport source (PAL Tuner, VCR, STB etc)?

Assuming you have at least 2 shows in your todo list, reboot your tivo then post a copy of your endpad.log

Peter

[donm]

Hi Pete

Yes sound a problem on all channels. Using a Sky STB (Pace)

Log below

Saturday 19:41:02 : endpad.tcl 1.5.1 log file, log rotated
Saturday 19:41:02 : Start padding set to 300 seconds
Saturday 19:41:02 : End padding set to 900 seconds
Saturday 19:41:02 : Negative start padding set to 0 seconds
Saturday 19:41:02 : Force Negative startpadding is 0
Saturday 19:41:02 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
Saturday 19:41:02 : Detected TiVo software version 3.0-01-1-000
Saturday 19:41:02 : Suggestion quality change disabled
Saturday 19:41:02 : Timezone 00:00
Saturday 19:41:02 : Sorted configuration options (last match used):-
Saturday 19:41:02 : startpad 5 endpad 15 negpad 0 forceneg 0 maxneg -1 sugqual -1
Saturday 19:41:02 : summary file /var/log/endpad.msg rotated
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...


Cheers

Don

[petestrash]

The endpad.log looks good so far. Now that it has been up for a day, check it again and post here.

As for the sound, have you tried moving the cables direct to the TV from the STB, or a different set of cables altogether.

Peter.

[donm]

Hi Peter

No have not tried different cable or direct connect. Will do.

Here is endpad log Sorry had to truncate as exceeds character limit

Sunday 14:40:03 : Woken up
Sunday 14:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 14:40:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 14:40:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 14:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 14:40:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 14:40:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 14:40:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 14:40:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 14:40:03 : Next wake up will be 15:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 15:10:03 : Woken up
Sunday 15:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 15:10:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 15:10:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 15:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 15:10:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 15:10:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 15:10:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 15:10:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 15:10:03 : Next wake up will be 15:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 15:40:03 : Woken up
Sunday 15:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 15:40:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 15:40:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 15:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 15:40:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 15:40:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 15:40:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 15:40:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 15:40:03 : Next wake up will be 16:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 16:10:03 : Woken up
Sunday 16:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 16:10:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 16:10:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 16:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 16:10:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 16:10:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 16:10:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 16:10:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 16:10:03 : Next wake up will be 16:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 16:40:03 : Woken up
Sunday 16:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 16:40:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 16:40:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 16:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 16:40:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 16:40:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 16:40:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 16:40:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 16:40:03 : Next wake up will be 17:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 17:10:03 : Woken up
Sunday 17:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 17:10:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 17:10:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 17:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 17:10:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 17:10:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 17:10:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 17:10:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 17:10:03 : Next wake up will be 17:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 17:40:03 : Woken up
Sunday 17:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 17:40:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 17:40:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 17:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 17:40:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 17:40:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 17:40:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 17:40:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 17:40:03 : Next wake up will be 18:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 18:10:03 : Woken up
Sunday 18:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 18:10:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 18:10:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 18:10:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 18:10:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 18:10:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 18:10:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 18:10:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 18:10:03 : Next wake up will be 18:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 18:40:03 : Woken up
Sunday 18:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 18:40:03 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 18:40:03 : No end padding required:
Sunday 18:40:03 : No recording in progress
Sunday 18:40:03 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 18:40:03 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 18:40:03 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 18:40:03 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 18:40:03 : Next wake up will be 19:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 19:10:03 : Woken up
Sunday 19:10:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 19:10:04 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 19:10:04 : No end padding required:
Sunday 19:10:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 19:10:04 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 19:10:04 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 19:10:04 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 19:10:04 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 19:10:04 : Next wake up will be 19:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 19:40:04 : Woken up
Sunday 19:40:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 19:40:04 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 19:40:04 : No end padding required:
Sunday 19:40:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 19:40:04 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 19:40:04 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 19:40:04 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 19:40:04 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 19:40:04 : Next wake up will be 20:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 20:10:04 : Woken up
Sunday 20:10:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 20:10:04 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 20:10:04 : No end padding required:
Sunday 20:10:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 20:10:04 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 20:10:04 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 20:10:04 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 20:10:04 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 20:10:04 : Next wake up will be 20:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Sunday 20:40:04 : Woken up
Sunday 20:40:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 20:40:04 : Next recording is {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo} on Movie1 at 04:35
Sunday 20:40:04 : No end padding required:
Sunday 20:40:04 : No recording in progress
Sunday 20:40:04 : Next end padding setting due 05:55
Sunday 20:40:04 : Can't add start padding to {Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo}
Sunday 20:40:04 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Sunday 20:40:04 : Next start padding setting due 04:45
Sunday 20:40:04 : Next wake up will be 21:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...

[petestrash]

Endpad is currently working, but you only seem to have one item in your todo list between 2:40pm Sunday and 4:35am Monday.

So there is nothing for endpad to do until 5:55am Monday when Deuce Bigalow is almost finished.

Check Deuce Bigalow tommorrow, and if you think it has not been endpadded then post the log details from between 5:30am and 6:30am.

Peter.

[donm]

Hi Peter

Have had a few problems TWP stopped working so was unable to get endpad log. Have just rebooted and TWP now works but have no log worth sending. Will give it another go now.

Cheers

[donm]

This is the last entry in the log as of today.

al..
Friday 21:12:59 : Woken up
Friday 21:12:59 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:12:59 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:12:59 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:12:59 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:12:59 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:12:59 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:12:59 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:12:59 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:12:59 : Next wake up will be 21:13
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:13:29 : Woken up
Friday 21:13:29 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:13:29 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:13:30 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:13:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:13:30 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:13:30 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:13:30 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:13:30 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:13:30 : Next wake up will be 21:14
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:14:00 : Woken up
Friday 21:14:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:14:00 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:14:00 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:14:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:14:00 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:14:00 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:14:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:14:00 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:14:00 : Next wake up will be 21:14
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:14:30 : Woken up
Friday 21:14:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:14:30 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:14:30 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:14:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:14:30 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:14:30 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:14:30 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:14:30 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:14:30 : Next wake up will be 21:15
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:15:00 : Woken up
Friday 21:15:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:15:00 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:15:00 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:15:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:15:00 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:15:00 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:15:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:15:00 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:15:00 : Next wake up will be 21:15
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:15:30 : Woken up
Friday 21:15:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:15:30 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:15:30 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:15:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:15:30 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:15:30 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:15:30 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:15:30 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:15:30 : Next wake up will be 21:16
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:16:00 : Woken up
Friday 21:16:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:16:00 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:16:00 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:16:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:16:00 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:16:00 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:16:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:16:00 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:16:00 : Next wake up will be 21:16
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:16:30 : Woken up
Friday 21:16:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:16:30 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:16:30 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:16:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:16:30 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:16:30 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:16:30 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:16:30 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:16:30 : Next wake up will be 21:17
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:17:00 : Woken up
Friday 21:17:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:17:00 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:17:00 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:17:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:17:00 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:17:00 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:17:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:17:00 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:17:00 : Next wake up will be 21:17
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:17:30 : Woken up
Friday 21:17:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:17:30 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:17:30 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:17:30 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:17:30 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:17:30 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:17:30 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:17:30 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:17:30 : Next wake up will be 21:18
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..
Friday 21:18:00 : Woken up
Friday 21:18:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:18:00 : Next recording is {Million 2 One} on Discov at 18:25
Friday 21:18:00 : No end padding required:
Friday 21:18:00 : No recording in progress
Friday 21:18:00 : Next end padding setting due 18:50
Friday 21:18:00 : Can't add start padding to {Million 2 One}
Friday 21:18:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Friday 21:18:00 : Next start padding setting due 18:35
Friday 21:18:00 : Next wake up will be 21:18
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal..Friday 21:19:15 :
Friday 21:19:15 : endpad.tcl 1.5.1 log file, starting up
Friday 21:19:15 : Start padding set to 300 seconds
Friday 21:19:15 : End padding set to 900 seconds
Friday 21:19:15 : Negative start padding set to 0 seconds
Friday 21:19:15 : Force Negative startpadding is 0
Friday 21:19:15 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
Friday 21:19:15 : Detected TiVo software version 3.0-01-1-000
Friday 21:19:15 : Suggestion quality change disabled
Friday 21:19:15 : Timezone 00:00
Friday 21:19:15 : Sorted configuration options (last match used):-
Friday 21:19:15 : startpad 5 endpad 15 negpad 0 forceneg 0 maxneg -1 sugqual -1
Friday 21:19:15 : Woken up
Friday 21:19:18 : Error detected
Friday 21:19:18 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
while executing
"if {$rectype == 3} {

# Recording active
set isrec 1

# Get details of currently recording programme
RetryTransaction ..."
Friday 21:19:18 : Attempting to recover
Friday 21:19:48 : Woken up
Friday 21:19:48 : Error detected
Friday 21:19:48 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
while executing
"if {$rectype == 3} {

# Recording active
set isrec 1

# Get details of currently recording programme
RetryTransaction ..."
Friday 21:19:48 : Attempting to recover
Friday 21:19:48 : Too many errors, stopping

[petestrash]

Sorry, have been away from the boards a few days.

Again, the first part of your post doesn't show anything as the next show you had {Million 2 One} programmed wasn't due to start until 18:25 the next day.

Then sometime after 21:18 there was an error causing endpad to shut down.

The error looks the same as if you didn't have at least 2 recordings setup in the todo list. My guess would be that someone canceled the only other scheduled recording causing endpad to crash.

Add a few shows to your todo list, then reboot to restart endpad.

Don't let your todo list get down to less than 3 shows or you will run into problems.

If you want to post another log, post one from just after a show has been recorded.

Peter.

[donm]

Hi there

recordings setup through twp. The default in twp shows "on time" for starting and ending recording. I added 15 minutes to end manually.

Endpad as below



Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Woken up
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Recording {The FBI Files} on Discov now
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 01:45
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Next recording is {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov at 02:30
Tuesday 01:24:01 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 01:24:01 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Next end padding setting due 01:40
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Next start padding setting due 02:24
Tuesday 01:24:01 : Next wake up will be 01:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal.................
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Recording {The FBI Files} on Discov now
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 01:45
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Next recording is {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov at 02:30
Tuesday 01:40:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 01:40:00 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Next end padding setting due 03:25
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Next start padding setting due 02:24
Tuesday 01:40:00 : Next wake up will be 02:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 02:10:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Next recording is {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov at 02:30
Tuesday 02:10:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 02:10:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Next end padding setting due 03:25
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Next start padding setting due 02:24
Tuesday 02:10:00 : Next wake up will be 02:24
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 02:24:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Next recording is {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov at 02:30
Tuesday 02:24:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 02:24:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Next end padding setting due 03:25
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Added 300 seconds start padding to {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Next start padding setting due 03:25
Tuesday 02:24:00 : Next wake up will be 02:54
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Recording {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov now
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 03:45
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:30
Tuesday 02:54:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 02:54:00 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Next end padding setting due 03:40
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Next start padding setting due 04:24
Tuesday 02:54:00 : Next wake up will be 03:24
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Recording {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov now
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 03:45
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:30
Tuesday 03:24:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 03:24:00 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Next end padding setting due 03:40
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Next start padding setting due 04:24
Tuesday 03:24:00 : Next wake up will be 03:40
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal.................
Tuesday 03:40:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Recording {Untold Stories Of The E.R} on Discov now
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 03:45
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:30
Tuesday 03:40:01 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 03:40:01 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Next end padding setting due 05:25
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Next start padding setting due 04:24
Tuesday 03:40:01 : Next wake up will be 04:10
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Woken up
Tuesday 04:10:01 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:30
Tuesday 04:10:01 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 04:10:01 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Next end padding setting due 05:25
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Next start padding setting due 04:24
Tuesday 04:10:01 : Next wake up will be 04:24
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 04:24:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:30
Tuesday 04:24:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 04:24:00 : No recording in progress
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Next end padding setting due 05:25
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Added 300 seconds start padding to {Deadliest Catch} on Discov
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Next start padding setting due 05:25
Tuesday 04:24:00 : Next wake up will be 04:54
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal...............................
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Recording {Deadliest Catch} on Discov now
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 05:45
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Next recording is {Deadliest Catch} on Discov at 04:25
Tuesday 04:54:00 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 04:54:00 : End padding of 900 seconds already set
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Next end padding setting due 05:40
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Can't add start padding to {Deadliest Catch}
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Start padding of 300 seconds already set
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Next start padding setting due 04:35
Tuesday 04:54:00 : Next wake up will be 04:54

[petestrash]

Seems to woking ok for these shows.

Peter

[donm]

Hi Peter

Thanks for sticking with me on this one. I wonder if we are talking at cross purposes. In TWP the default is no Endpading. If I chose to record something off the Tivo then unless the timing is perfect I lose some from the beginning or the end.

Cheers

Don

[petestrash]

Ok, I think it might be time for a lesson on padding.

There are 2 types of padding, Hard padding and Soft padding.

Hard padding is set using the TiVo GUI or in TWP. This padding is a fixed amount. If you wanted to record 2 shows back to back and the first one had hard end padding the 2nd show would not be recorded because of the hard padding. For this reason we basically never use hard padding as it causes conflicts.

Soft padding is added by endpad just before the start and end of a program. It is set by default to add 5min to the start and 15min to the end of each program. The difference is that you will not see this is going to happen until it has been done just before the start and end of the program.

For start padding Endpad wakes up 5 minutes before the start of a show and checks if something is currently being recorded. If not, it starts the recording (adding 5 minutes start padding). If something is being recorded it checks to see if there is any gap between the end of the current recording and start of the next one. If there is a gap it will start recording at the begining of the gap.

For end padding, Endpad wakes up 5 minutes before the end of a show and checks if something is scheduled to start within 15 minutes of the end. If not, it adds 15 minutes to the end of the recording. If something is scheduled to be recorded endpad checks to see if there is any gap between the end of the current recording and start of the next one. If there is a gap it will add only enough end padding to fill the gap.

Endpad has many other features and options, but I think this covers the basics.

Peter.

[dyrplq]

Good summary Pete. I would like to add that having just discovered Negpad, I think this is the most useful feature of Endpadplus (Negpad forces extra time to be added to the end of a scheduled recording even if another recording is due to start - I'd much rather see the ends of shows than the first few minutes of the beginnings).

No more cutting off the end of "Lost" or having to wait until next weeks "Survivor" to see who got voted off last week as Tivo had jumped to the next scheduled recording prior to the show finishing.

All this makes for HWS (Happy Wife Syndrome)

Phil

[petestrash]

The post was just meant to clarify the confusion between hard padding and soft padding.

As I said "Endpad has many other features and options".

Personally negpadding is not needed once you have a few TiVo's.

One of my favourite features is the ability to vary the amount of endpadding by channel and time of day.

I have:

startpad 1.5
endpad 5
channel Ten-WA,Seven-WA,Nine-WA validity 19:00-22:00 endpad 18
channel Ten-WA,Seven-WA,Nine-WA validity 22:00-06:00 endpad 20
sugeq

Which gives 5 minutes endpadding to all shows, 18 minutes to shows on the commercial networks starting between 19:00 and 22:00, then 20 minutes to shows on the commercial networks starting between 22:00 and 06:00

Peter.

[Si-clone]

In the comments of the endpad.config file it says that a program name will be matched by the supplied pattern, and I can see caret and dollar sign used in the comments.

I'm assuming that the caret ^ and the dollar sign $ are characters that respectively match the empty string at the beginning and end of a line?

Does this imply that a regular expression can be used to match a program name, or are we limited to just those two metacharacters?

[petestrash]

it uses a regular expression match, so .* matches anything, eg. {Later .* Holland} (the {} are needed if the string has spaces).

If you want an exact match on the whole programme name, you use {^Later with Jools Holland$}.

Hope that helps,

Peter.

[NerdCat]

Good summary Pete. I would like to add that having just discovered Negpad, I think this is the most useful feature of Endpadplus (Negpad forces extra time to be added to the end of a scheduled recording even if another recording is due to start - I'd much rather see the ends of shows than the first few minutes of the beginnings).

Phil

Im searching around (including the tivocommunity site, and #20 herein) for a definition of the detailed workings of negpad. It seems to be a regular discussion topic. But I still cant find the specific answer to my query :

I have program A 18:00-18:30 and program B 18:30-19:00 on different channels scheduled to record. But program always A runs late. And I dont care if I miss the start of program B, but would like to see what's left of it after A finishes.

I suspect the answer is negpad ?

But If I set up endpad to specifically negpad program A by 10 minutes, will this cause the recording of program B to be cancelled ? Or will program B simply be amended by endpad to start 10 minutes late ? (which would be rather clever and incredibly useful !)

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere, Ive spent 45 minutes looking without a clear answer. Is there a write up anywhere of endpad including full syntax and in particular the meaning of negpad, forcepad and all such parameters ?

Many thanks for patience on what has to have been answered elsewhere surely !

[petestrash]

There is a readme.txt file in the endpad folder and gives a pretty good basic guide with examples.

In answer to your question adding negpad to program A will delay the start of program B. This is why negpad is used.

Peter.

[NerdCat]

Thanks Pete. Id found the read me, but it didnt tell me what you did ie endpad wont cancel the next prog. I get it now. Yes, that's pretty useful indeed :)

On a similar topic (and again Ive searched as best I know how), is there anywhere that will explain :

In the TivoWeb Folders screen, what do the entries in the MINS column mean ? For example

Program Episode Mins Date
Our Animals Koalas 10+17(2) Thursday 18th September

I can guess its a 10 minute program. I might guess it has 17 minutes of endpad (except I thought Id only asked for 10 minutes). But Im struggling with the (2) ?

Or a user guide/writeup etc so I can answer my own questions !!!

[petestrash]

I don't ever use the folders modules, I don't really see the point using it for Series1 units. Now playing does me fine.

That said I think the + figure should be your startpad+endpad amount, don't know about the brackets though.

Try a search for folders.itcl on dealdatabase.com if your after more info on this module.

Peter